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Posted Oct 3, '12 at 3:19am
SSTG
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Erroneous in claiming most deals are wth the Chinese government;
So according to you the Chinese government doesn't control everything that happens in China? Come on.
As if the American government is so truthful.
I never said the government was truthful, especially not the American one but I'd rather have Obama at it's head because he, at least tries to put Americans back to work.
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Posted Oct 3, '12 at 12:21pm
nichodemus
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So according to you the Chinese government doesn't control everything that happens in China? Come on.
You are very ill-informed and disgustingly generalizing if you think it does. The Chinese government puts into place laws regulating business, but so does virtually every nation on earth. The government doesn't have a share in all, or even the majority of companies; it doesn't dictate the business practices and production processes of the SMEs and TVEs for example.
I never said the government was truthful, especially not the American one but I'd rather have Obama at it's head because he, at least tries to put Americans back to work.
Both are virulently anti China. But both acknowledge that forsaking China is economic suicide. But seek cooperation but both seek to limit and delineate this relationship. Are both going against economic theory and free trade? Yes.
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Posted Oct 3, '12 at 1:27pm
SSTG
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You are very ill-informed and disgustingly generalizing if you think it does. The Chinese government puts into place laws regulating business, but so does virtually every nation on earth. The government doesn't have a share in all, or even the majority of companies; it doesn't dictate the business practices and production processes of the SMEs and TVEs for example.
It doesn't change the fact that it's stupid and reckless to move the US manufacturing power to China. What if a war started tomorrow?
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Posted Oct 3, '12 at 11:26pm
nichodemus
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It doesn't change the fact that it's stupid and reckless to move the US manufacturing power to China. What if a war started tomorrow?
It isn't stupid and reckless. It is what has allowed US companies to still repatriate profits which would noy be possible in the USA with much higher costs of production. America has all along had multiple plants in nation that are unfriendly with it; Cuba was a prime example.
People often forget it's a symbiotic relationship, China requires the huge American market and companies to sustain its growth. Not to mention that it holds billions of American Treasury Bonds, essentially a security hostage that America can squeeze.
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Posted Oct 4, '12 at 3:17am
MageGrayWolf
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Posted Oct 4, '12 at 3:53am
MageGrayWolf
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Posted Oct 4, '12 at 10:29am
pickpocket
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are we really so insipid to blain only Obama?
Haha, yet you silly democrats only blame Bush for ALL of Obama`s problems.
What if a war started tomorrow?
We would be butt *******ed. But hey, maybe the jobs would come back then.
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Posted Oct 4, '12 at 12:54pm
SSTG
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http://factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-de … larations/
Interesting article, thanks Mage.
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Posted Oct 4, '12 at 4:04pm
Vannilaknight
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OBAMA!!
Mormons are wierd
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Posted Oct 4, '12 at 5:40pm
HahiHa
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Haha, yet you silly democrats only blame Bush for ALL of Obama`s problems.
It isn't correct to blame all on Bush, yet he did royally screw up. And I don't see how Romney could help as he most probably would make similar mistakes.
We would be butt *******ed. But hey, maybe the jobs would come back then.
Who cares for a few jobs when your country is going down the gutter?
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