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Posted Aug 13, '12 at 5:16pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,086 posts

Knight

If a woman is irresponsible enough to make a baby that she doesn't want in the first place, then she goes and basically kills it because she doesn't want to be responsible for a kid. Alot of people say that abortion is okay, but we've all known since we were in kindergarten that two wrongs don't make a right. **** is a different story. Not to mention, Obama supports gay marriage. The reason the word gay became a word that meant dumb, wrong, weird, and other things is because that what it is. No offense homosexuals but I don't think gay marriage is meant to be.

Saying stuff like that is easy for someone who is neither unwantedly pregnant or homosexual. You don't realize the bigger picture.

you're right, we can't trust a thing that fox news says because they say nothing but lies, according to their competitors who are trying to put them out of business.

More likely, according to the whole world except republicans.

 

Posted Aug 13, '12 at 5:28pm

TheMostManlyMan

TheMostManlyMan

3,675 posts

More likely, according to the whole world except republicans.

because everyone else disagrees with them and likes their own socialist ways

~manly man

 

Posted Aug 13, '12 at 5:57pm

Krill11

Krill11

99 posts

Yep, a loyal Fox News watcher.

Oh, and I do research, and I do not wach Fox. For  one, way too extremist for my taste...

Panic means many things, making up only one possible solution doesn't mean it is true or false. The truth makes things True or false...

Actually, I have seen more middle class, as well as small business owners, get hit equal to, in many cases even more than the poor...

"Obama did drugs!!!111!ONESHIFT!"

So did probably 80% of the entire freaking nation in that period of time. Romney, Bush, and any other repubs you're shooting for probably snorted crack, smoked pot, or took acid as well in their teen days. It was the "cool thing" among teens at that period of time,...

...Really stupid? Yes. Invalidates anything the person might do after finally growing up ever for the rest of their life? No.

My point was the lying part, not just the drugs part.
Oh and drugs more often than not ruin lives btw.

Mitt has made an equal amount of gaffes as Obama has,

And Obama makes half of those up...

Raising tariffs for one against China will mean Americans have fewer choices and more expensive ones at that. Do people want that?

Not necessarily, it could create more options for more American businesses, thus doing the opposite of what you are claiming...

More likely, according to the whole world except republicans.

because everyone else disagrees with them and likes their own socialist ways

Umm, What?

Saying stuff like that is easy for someone who is neither unwantedly pregnant or homosexual. You don't realize the bigger picture.

Of course it is easier. Making choices early makes things easier. Easy? No! Easier, yes. (oh, and i don't think you can be unwanted homosexual)
:)

~krill11

 

Posted Aug 13, '12 at 6:05pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,086 posts

Knight

My point was the lying part, not just the drugs part.

Every president or political leader or CEO has made tons of promises that won't be fulfilled. I find it gratuitous to judge someone by them only, and I'm always amazed that people still are as naive as to expect a president to fulfill all promises.

Oh and drugs more often than not ruin lives btw.

Why is that? Too often, the reason is because they're criminalized instead of regularized.

(oh, and i don't think you can be unwanted homosexual)

Apart from the fact that most homosexuals didn't decide to be so, what I wanted to say was [unwantedly pregnant] OR [homosexual]. Clear now? :)

 

Posted Aug 13, '12 at 7:05pm

Krill11

Krill11

99 posts

Yes, I just thought it humerus the way you put it, as i believe you did to!
XD

Why is that? Too often, the reason is because they're criminalized instead of regularized.

One word, Alcohol...

Two more words, Cigarettes/tobacco...

Another few, Illegal possession...

Every president or political leader or CEO has made tons of promises that won't be fulfilled. I find it gratuitous to judge someone by them only, and I'm always amazed that people still are as naive as to expect a president to fulfill all promises.

...True, but first off, Do they make promises that they know they cant keep?
Do they make little effort to keep them, Or do they try hard to keep their promises, even when the odds are stacked against them?
Do they truly try to do what is right?
This is what I judge on, this is how I think. Not just what is said, but how it is said, and what is done...

Very few people I have seen with these morals, though, as Every Man, Every Woman, and Every Child should be working on, myself included...

Human perfection is not perfection, its how hard they try to do their best...

~Krill11

 

Posted Aug 13, '12 at 8:41pm

nichodemus

nichodemus

12,177 posts

Knight

Not necessarily, it could create more options for more American businesses, thus doing the opposite of what you are claiming...

No this goes against the Economics grain. If America does not have a CA in manufacturing then it's goods will be more expensive then Chjnese goods because cost of production is naturally going to be higher. People only view the business possibly gaining, but what if you were just a consumer? We have already seen this before; America tried to protect it's steel industry which was grossly allocative and productively inefficient, leading to car prices rising pre 2000.

Also protectionism is never justified unless you're protecting infant industries and even that is tenuous. Domestic producers themselves lose out in the end as protectionism gives the aura of stability; they have no competiion to worry about which would lead to allocative, productive, and X inefficiency. We too have seen this in the 1930s when most countries, attempted beggar thy neighbor policies. No government likes to be viewed as the bad guy and remove suh tariffs, look at the inefficient Japanese and European farmers.

Protectionism will also lead to retaliation from other countries, worsening the entire situation. That is why I have no support for Romney's economics policy. And the cutting taxes for the rich part is pretty much scandalous too.

 

Posted Aug 14, '12 at 1:00am

Krill11

Krill11

99 posts

Ok, The steel thing was owned 90% to one guy. So, less relevant than one might think.

Prices may go higher for a time, but they also go down a bit because there would be more competition, thus, a good thing. people will want to take the lowest price for the best deal, small businesses would price below the grander companies, and bring down the cost...

Well, right now, remember how Obama is taxing the rich more than there proper %. All men are created equal. There should be no attacking a group because of what they legally do.

We need the rich. They create jobs and they give us paychecks. We cannot seclude them because they may have more money. to do so is short sighted, and no one will want to better there income, because it will worsen their situation.

~Krill11

 

Posted Aug 14, '12 at 4:13am

nichodemus

nichodemus

12,177 posts

Knight

Sorry but the steel industry is not owned by one person. United States Steel Company, AK Steel, Commercial Metals Company, Harsco Corporation, Olympic Steel, the list goes on and on. And if it was owned by just one person, that would make it a whole lot worse, given that one person/company controls such a vital raw material.

I don't think you quite understand protectionism. It ensures protection for US companies importing and exporting. It stifles competition since foreign companies are blocked out.

If all men are equal then the poor should be helped. Only people who are doing comfortably think the status quo is good. The rich are obscenely rich, if America truly stands up to it's motto of making the Dream possible for
everyone and for everyone to have equal opportunities then apparently it's a badly kept sham.

The rich will hardly atop working when you cut ther pay. The million of golden handshakes are in themselves obscene and the way they played with people's money is nothing short of scandalous and a major cause of the recession and bubble burst. The rich creating jobs? Please look at how many jobs the banking and insurance industry creates. They create small amounts of high skilled jobs for degree holders, no bank is going to want the million of relatively lowly educated Americans which make up the bulk of the work force.

 

Posted Aug 14, '12 at 4:15am

nichodemus

nichodemus

12,177 posts

Knight

Sorry but the steel industry is not owned by one person. United States Steel Company, AK Steel, Commercial Metals Company, Harsco Corporation, Olympic Steel, the list goes on and on. And if it was owned by just one person, that would make it a whole lot worse, given that one person/company controls such a vital raw material.

I don't think you quite understand protectionism. It ensures protection for US companies importing and exporting. It stifles competition since foreign companies are blocked out.

If all men are equal then the poor should be helped. Only people who are doing comfortably think the status quo is good. The rich are obscenely rich, if America truly stands up to it's motto of making the Dream possible for
everyone and for everyone to have equal opportunities then apparently it's a badly kept sham.

The rich will hardly atop working when you cut ther pay. The million of golden handshakes are in themselves obscene and the way they played with people's money is nothing short of scandalous and a major cause of the recession and bubble burst. The rich creating jobs? Please look at how many jobs the banking and insurance industry creates. They create small amounts of high skilled jobs for degree holders, no bank is going to want the million of relatively lowly educated Americans which make up the bulk of the work force.

 

Posted Aug 14, '12 at 8:03pm

Krill11

Krill11

99 posts

I thought you were refering to Andrew Carnegie . Which the rise in price did happen. He is one of the reasons that we have Monopoly Laws

What that means is that everyone has the same rights, not that everyone has the same thing/things. Giving more rights to people with less money is not good, nor is giving more rights to rich people.

No, I had little knowledge on protectionism.  It is supposed to level the playing field for trade vs home-growth. Though I think Singapore does a very nice job of the Free Trade System. For the USA, it would not work as well. We have a large Agricultural area, and we do well with electronics. If we Use a Free Trade system, we would leech energies from other countries to better ourselves, instead of improving them, like we are, and should be...

We have protections in place to help infant companies grow. If we didn't have it, would Bill Gates go from making bicycles to crater of the Ipod, To one of the richest men in the world? Yes, he might have, But it would have been a lot harder, and his production would have suffered. We might still be forced to use those big, clunky Walkman.
*Gasp*! X-D

We were created by

the million of relatively lowly educated Americans

that you are speaking of. Who do you think fought the American Revolution? The politicians? General Washington fought beside "lowly uneducated American" farmers who worked hard for what is right.

Americans are more educated than you give them credit, Sir. Banks help give loans to many people who are poor, but they work hard And for those who Prove their worth.

Bill Gates made bikes, And he worked hard at something he cared about to become one of the countries most known people.

The problem with the poor is not the money. But many of them choose to not work. There are many job opportunities that pay well in the USA, but why aren't people going eagerly at them? Because the jobs are hard work. There is a door-to-door workplace in L.A. selling pesticide. They are always looking for workers, yet they have trouble finding them. the reason isn't because there aren't workers, but because no one wants to do it.

In this country there is always a place to work, wether it is door-to-door, or flipping burgers, the choice is made by the people themselves, not the government. People have there agency Sir, they choose what they do.

~Krill11

 
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