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Why do black people get there own TV chanel ?

Posted Jun 27, '12 at 11:30pm

ethan3300

ethan3300

78 posts

BET why do they get why try and get are own but they say thats racist

Posted Jun 28, '12 at 7:49pm

YoMama07

YoMama07

29 posts

The name of your thread is so racist.

 

Posted Jun 28, '12 at 7:53pm

daleks

daleks

2,516 posts

Because it is a backlash of when we had them as slaves. That is the problem, they can do things that are technically racist and get away with it. That is why if you are a fat, black female you have it easy. You have the race card, fat card, and female card.

 

Posted Jun 28, '12 at 8:20pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

317 posts

Because it is a backlash of when we had them as slaves. That is the problem, they can do things that are technically racist and get away with it. That is why if you are a fat, black female you have it easy. You have the race card, fat card, and female card.

There's like so many things wrong with that post I can't even begin to address it.

To answer the OP, that's got to do with the alienation of black people from the mainstream "white" culture and society, which led them to develop an entire race identity and subculture. As a result many art forms, historical events and themes are profoundly associated with African-American culture, and that matters to a large segment of that community.

The BET channel happens to appeal to that consumer base/portion of society. That's their thing. Is acknowledging the existence of that culture really that racist? If they start preaching black superiority or whatever, that's a whole other deal, but I don't see what stops them from celebrating a 'heritage', so to speak. You have other channels where you can watch more mainstream-oriented programming.

 

Posted Jun 28, '12 at 8:23pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

317 posts

And yes, that alienation comes in many ways from a socioeconomic gap that derives from slavery and poor integration of ex-slaves into American society, but "BET exists because of slavery backlash" is a knee-jerk and insensitive generalization, bordering on bigotry.

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 7:12pm

Royaletoser

Royaletoser

10 posts

"That is why if you are a fat, black female you have it easy."       Yeah... I don't think so, in fact I'm pretty sure if you're in good shape, white, and male, you have it far easier from the very start.

 

Posted Jul 19, '12 at 9:58pm

BRAAINZz

BRAAINZz

593 posts

There's like so many things wrong with that post I can't even begin to address it.

No. He's right. The issue is that no one will address things like this in a critical matter. No one wants to hurt anyone's feelings. Or have the race card pulled on them. People get offended way to easily in an age of tolerance. And some just pull the card on the simple vague mention of the topic.

The name of your thread is so racist.

Exactly what I was talking about.

Anyway, It's there because, aside from Dalek's opinion, it's a niche market. Capitalism. A niche unexplored because of racial infractions is a great room for profit. So, why not? It makes money. And that's what matters.

 

Posted Jul 20, '12 at 2:18am

ihsahn

ihsahn

317 posts

No. He's right.

No, he's wrong.
I'm sure you find yourself quite the edgy freethinker coming off all "I ain't afraid of hurting nobody's feelings", but you sided with a bigoted, short-sighted statement on this one.
I figure I'll have to begin to address it, then.

"It's backlash from when we had them as slaves"? Seriously? Do you think the Secret Council of Black People got together and Grandmaster Oprah said "We need to get those crackers back for all that slavery stuff, any suggestions" and Will Smith went "OH I know, let's make a TV channel, that'll show 'em"?
Or do you think the entire living black population secretly hides so deep a remorse over a historical occurrence that directly affected exactly zero of them that they MUST have a media outlet that allows the entire community to share in the loathing?

As I said, the alienation of the black community does indeed largely have roots in a socioeconomic gap that derives from slavery and poor integration of ex-slaves, but that statement lacks any substance or context whatsoever, and implies a level of malice from an entire race that borders on bigotry. "oh they coast on white guilt from when we had them as slaves, so they can be racist and get away with it". No. **** off.

Besides, racism isn't supporting a culture, it's discriminating against others. BET doesn't preach black superiority or anything, it just appeals to a certain well-established culture. It's a niche like any other. No more to it. I'm not saying no black people have ever played "the race card" (frankly, I hate that expression because 99% of the time it's used to justify idiotic statements), but this is simply not the case here.

"That is why if you are a fat, black female you have it easy." Holy mother****ing ****, really? "You have the race card, fat card, and female card." This reeks of entitled white man bull****. You think it's easier being a woman than a man in a sexist, objectifying, patriarchal culture? You call being fat in a society where an unrealistic body image is constantly blasted at you from all conceivable ****ing angles easy? You think it's easier being black in a country with racism so deeply rooted that entire segments of the South are still sore about the defeat of the good ol' Confederacy that let them own black folks? A country where black people are historically excluded from mainstream society, where some living black people can still remember when they couldn't use the same drinking fountains as whites?
Fat black women have it easy? What the **** kind of world are you living in?

"oh they just playin on peoples feelings" BULL ****ING ****. That's a pathetic excuse not to address why those feelings exist in the first place. You want to make a nuanced, specific argument, you make it, don't take the easy way out.
Go on, I'm listening. Don't just spew recycled prejudices at me like the mindless opinion-sponge you are, talking whatever crap suits your confortable little white American man lifestyle best and lets you think the least.

I'm perfectly open to the idea that racism is used to justify certain actions of black people, but you're gonna have to do better to argue this case.

 

Posted Jul 20, '12 at 5:59am

AceofSky

AceofSky

728 posts

Is this type of thread even allowed? To counter the OP, how come white people get their own TV channel. Or other races get their own TV channel. Other races have their own, but seriously, why does it matter?

 

Posted Jul 20, '12 at 7:01am

MoonFairy

MoonFairy

2,647 posts

Number one.

Why do black people get their own TV channel?

Mkay.

Number two.

BET why do they get why try and get are own but they say thats racist

What the what? I assume you mean why do black people get BET but when we try to get our own they say that's racist.

Well, I don't know what race you are but I assume it's white.

and @YoMama, WOW YOU TOTALLY AREN'T HELPING.

@daleks, you put a decent comment into a really blunt way, and it came off as racist. Racism is a touchy subject and you have to deal with it by using a needle, not a hammer.

@ihsahn (sp?) I watch BET often, so it isn't a 'heritage' thing if you want to say African American. Because that would mean their heritage is African, and there are too many different cultures and walls to have one channel to fit all of African culture in it.

No one said anything about sharing in loathing. You took their comments and turned them into something about hatred and etc when their comments had nothing to do with hate. Yes, daleks was right when he said it's a backlash as when we had them as slaves. TECHNICALLY, he was right. It could've been worded better, but backlash is not the word for it. It's a result of what happened due to slavery and segregation and such. It isn't particularly negative, but the separation that still exists isn't positive. daleks meant that the fact that we can have a BET channel and it not be racist, but if we were to have a WET channel (lol) that it would be shut down for racism.

Hey dude, I live in the South. Don't get me started on racism.

I work in fastfood, and I've had 14 black people tell me they want a black person to serve them instead of me because the don't like my kind. And I just have to grit my teeth and send out whatever black person we have, because if I was to tell them to leave I would lose my job because of racism. It's not the first time that has happened to someone, so don't tell me it isn't likely. I walk on a tightrope at school, because if I step on any toes there, I could seriously get killed. Not that igaf (cool)

My best friends are black, I've dated black guys, I work with black people, and I go to school with a 8 to 1 black to white ratio. Mmkay.

Now. Respond.

 

Posted Jul 20, '12 at 7:30am

bigmac258

bigmac258

99 posts

lol this thread is sooooooooooooo stupid and racist

 
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