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CapnCook
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What are your opinions on it? Chat away.

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joeyman2
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Comunism is WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS
Look at what happened to the Communist countries THEY ALL FAILED (except for the 3 current ones which I hate)
In communist countries the government controls your life
Why would you want that?
they could kill you just because they wanted to
they could torture you just because they wanted to
enough said

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joeyman2, you have misunderstood Communism so much. You are bound for waves of arguments. Why don't you actually read on Communism, instead of looking to the "communist" countries of today and the century which are terrible failures. They are nothing like Communists, communism is equality for all. The people govern the country.

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In communist countries the government controls your life
Why would you want that?
they could kill you just because they wanted to
they could torture you just because they wanted to
enough said

that is not communism, that is more of a dictatorship, communism is where everyone is equal, everyone owns everything, no one is better than anyone else.
BRAAINZz
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they could kill you just because they wanted to
they could torture you just because they wanted to
enough said


Better than being brainwashed in Capitalist America!

"communist" countries of today and the century which are terrible failures.


That said though, there is no legitimate examples of true Communism. Communism is to utopian for it to ever succeed.
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its very bad

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In communist countries the government controls your life
Why would you want that?
they could kill you just because they wanted to
they could torture you just because they wanted to

No, in dictatorship this is what happens. In either end of the political spectrum.

Communism is more of a economical idea, even though it has a lot of assassination to violent uprisings and &quotower to the people" patriotism, mostly because of modern communism conducted by Marx, even if his intention are disputed the result is there. Communism does not work. It does not matter if there where never no real communist state, the simply fact of trying to be one is a failure. Although, having communistic (or socialist) elements in a country is crucial and assures the well being of all citizens as long as it's in the left spectrum and not the radical left.
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assassination

lol I mean association.

its very bad

Not a good "argument" and spam

They are nothing like Communists, communism is equality for all. The people govern the country.

With this idea, communism or rather, true communism, is impossible. The people already govern in some way countries, it's called democracy. If the people truly governed the country, then it would be anarchy, because you need people in higher power to position the country on a pathway. Equality? Where is the equality in taking everything from richer people and give it to the poor? That's not fair for the rich. And that circulation of wealth is bound to cause corruption (as we can see with failed commie states). Taxes are an effective and equal way of helping the poor without hurting the rich, after all, the richer you are, the more you pay, but everyone pays a fair amount, because it's by percentage. So, if we have taxes, why try to redistribute wealth?
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Well the idea of communism, as stated above, is impossible. You need some kind of law and order in order to govern the people. You also need people to govern the people because people, when left to their own devices it turns to anarchy. Also, it is not fair for people who have harder jobs and more responsibility to take care of those who freeload off of the system.

Communism has never truly been in place nor will it ever. In places where it has tried (communes namely) on a small basis it has miserably failed.

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Yes, I know Communism can never be implemented into real life. I never said it is/was a successful type of government. I could only dream of that. It does seem, in a sense, that communism is like anarchy. There is no government or laws.

In communism it practically requires you to disregard your emotions and motives (that don't have to deal with production and the likes), which is impossible for the human.

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in mother russia, you are not communist, communist is you

~man manly

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Yes, I know Communism can never be implemented into real life.
Well the idea of communism, as stated above, is impossible.
With this idea, communism or rather, true communism, is impossible.


True communism is impossible, but the communism we have today is an extended version of socialism. It's very achievable through use of propaganda, oppression, and severe consequences for wrongdoing.

If the people truly governed the country, then it would be anarchy, because you need people in higher power to position the country on a pathway.
It does seem, in a sense, that communism is like anarchy. There is no government or laws.
You need some kind of law and order in order to govern the people.


Communism is not of the people governing themselves. It is the exact opposite. In a communist country, the people have a government that regulates them. You don't generally vote for your leaders; if you do, propaganda usually determines the winner. The government takes money from the rich and gives it to the poor through taxes, or "robin hooding." People live about the same lives. Most everything is run by the government. If not, then most things are at least overseen by the government.

Capitalism is completely gone from a communist country; there are no individual companies, no choice in what you want to buy, and you certainty have no choice in where you want to work.

So, done with my argument.

Communism was influenced by the ideals of Karl Marx, with the predecessor being philosopher Thomas Hobbes. Thomas Hobbes believed that people were born naturally evil, and needed one hell of a government to hold them back. He believed in a monarchical government, as was customary of his time. The ideas of communism were reflected by monarchies in many cases, whether it be the king/queen/whatever using propaganda to make people loyal, forcing people to become weak to protect from revolution, or sometimes forcing the people to follow the ways of royalty.

Hitler's Germany used propaganda to show that Germany was coming back strong and to influence the Germanic people that they were the superior race. Germany was defeated in WWI, so Hitler used this as a perfect opportunity to rebuild the country in his wanting. Germany wasn't necessarily a communistic country, but it was close to one. The people had to believe in what Hitler believed in, and any opposition were to be dealt away with immediately. It was fascist and all that jazz, but that doesn't matter with the topic at hand.

The Soviet Union was also close to a communistic government. Stalin was a lot like Hitler and killed any opposition, forced propaganda upon his people, and forced them to live the way he wanted them to.

Italy was like these two at one time as well, but I have to find my history notes to go into depth with that.
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only people who have never read any capitalist literature enjoy the fantasy of communism. many of those haven't even read Capital by Marx and the other bits by Engels or the Communist Manifesto, for that matter.

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Stalin was a lot like Hitler


Wrong. Stalin killed his own political party members, millions more Russians that the Nazis ever did, and to date no one still knows how many Russians and Eastern Europeans died while under his regime. Hitler, while also killing millions, mainly Jews, boosted Germany to a higher standard of living and made it the best economy in the 30's and 40's. Stalin never really got Russia to the dream he claimed to have. Stalin seemed more like a lunatic at the right place and right time. Hitler, while also insane, used it to achieve his ends and was really for the German people. Stalin just liked power, no matter who it is over and no matter who he had to crush.

killed any opposition


Stalin usually didn't kill opposition. He killed Russians that he was suspicious of, he needed for labor, and communist party members he became paranoid of. There is reason to believe he suffered from acute paranoia and schizophrenia. Adolf also began to show signs of memory loss and minor schizophrenia at the end of WWII. Also, the Nazi party was much more loyal to it's own than the USSR communist party was.

forced propaganda upon his people


Everyone does that. Everyone! It just depends on what you think is propaganda and what is a.......TV ad.

Italy was like these two at one time as well,


Never, ever. Mussolini was more like a sidekick who did whatever Hitler told him to do. Transport out the Jews, defend this front, attack here. His regime, if you can call it that, never came close to what Hitler or Stalin had, or Lenin for that matter.

Communism was influenced by the ideals of Karl Marx,


Karl Marx influenced Marxism. Communism is not exactly taken from his ideals. Basically it was shifted to fit what leaders wanted. Like China was running on a Maoism government for a time. Similar but not the same.

but it was close to one


Nazism and Communism are not close. Hitler and Stalin loathed each other and what they stood for. Again, similarities, but it's not accurate to call them close.
Kevin4762
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National German Socialist Party. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Kevin4762
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Let me correct the name of the party before any else does, National Socialist German Workers' Party.

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