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Posted Jul 23, '12 at 1:21pm

nichodemus

nichodemus

12,119 posts

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Socialism, or basic communism, was a savior for many people, including my parents and grandparents.

You can say that again, my government was Socialist leaning at the beginning. Bless them.

Marx's original idea of Communism was never fulfilled. It never could have been fulfilled. People cannot govern for themselves, it's just **** straight impossible.

On a micro-level, The Yugoslavan work councils were a good start, pity they erm...tended to overpay each other. But it was a start.

 

Posted Jul 23, '12 at 9:29pm

Darkroot

Darkroot

2,549 posts

Communism is not of the people governing themselves. It is the exact opposite. In a communist country, the people have a government that regulates them. You don't generally vote for your leaders; if you do, propaganda usually determines the winner. Most everything is run by the government. If not, then most things are at least overseen by the government.

Take away taking money away from the rich and giving it to the poor and it sounds like America.

abused concept like almost everything else

It can only be abused if you build it that way. Like take America for instance the banks are hoarding 32 trillion dollars. Enough money to pretty much do anything and affect everyone in the entire world.

Marx's original idea of Communism was never fulfilled. It never could have been fulfilled. People cannot govern for themselves, it's just **** straight impossible.

It is actually quite possible people do adapt easily. If you would take people who have not be fed the opposite ideas their whole lives you would be surprised how well it would work. Any system will work as long as it maintains balance between the masses. It doesn't even have to be full balance like having rich and poor people. But on the core level they are equal in the system except for their individual health. People will try to be part of larger groups and even if they don't agree but are part of the system ontop of the system being overbearing will result in cognitive dissonance in which people rationalize their worries and objections themselves. It is just hard to go from the system we have now to the polar extremely in such a quick fashion.

 

Posted Jul 23, '12 at 10:17pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

3,950 posts

Take away taking money away from the rich and giving it to the poor and it sounds like America.

To me everything sounds like America if you give and take some stuff.

 

Posted Jul 24, '12 at 3:03pm

ryjo1026

ryjo1026

4 posts

communism isn't a bad idea it's just there is no real way to enforce it without a ruler (i.e. Stalin) and then there is no way to make that ruler not corrupt.

 

Posted Jul 25, '12 at 10:59pm

Darkroot

Darkroot

2,549 posts

ruler not corrupt.

There is always someone on the top or a group of people and among them there are those who would take advantage of you either using the law itself or circumventing it entirely. The best solution that I could come up with is that government is completely transparent and there are better laws in place to prevent people with wealth or power from buying the people on the top or buying their way up there themselves.

 

Posted Jul 27, '12 at 1:55pm

MatteoB1314

MatteoB1314

2 posts

In theory, Communism is good. There are two steps to becoming Communist:

1. The government takes all property

2. The government distributes all property evenly to the citizens.

Communism is supposed to be fair and utopian, but no government has ever given the property back to the people. They have taken it, but never gone to the next step.

 

Posted Jul 27, '12 at 2:11pm

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,633 posts

Communism looks great on paper, but as mere humans, we can't put the full idea into motion, so it fails.

 

Posted Jul 29, '12 at 4:56pm

Kevin4762

Kevin4762

2,374 posts

I have no moral or ethical obligation to help you.

 

Posted Jul 31, '12 at 9:53am

danielo

danielo

1,395 posts

just like any other ideaoligy. does democracy work perfectly? no. its the least bad one for now.

lets make it easier -

communisem - 'everyone is equal'. someone have to lead and make Decisions. people who get to the position of being elected to be the Decisions maker have strong will and Great ambitions. so they claim the power of the job.

and, remmember, all the communist countries look like that because USA is blockading them and banning them. people fled to russia teritories in the beginning of hte cold war you know. and cuba is waht its now today because the revolutenist didnt liked teh USAiands buiesness mans who, litealry, bought slaves in there. so after they kicked out all the Corrupt and strong people, who just took cuba to themselve, they wanted to make cuba be for all of its citizens, what usa dont like either. they like when a buisness man do whatever we want. want to mine gold with the cyanide process {google it}? thats ok! who care about what happen to the nature?! its your property.

for say, why you think you hate so much the french? because its easier to the Conservatives to hate them, because they have free medical Insurance and etc., so hating them will make them look silly, rather than let the mass ask "why dont we get free medicens when we sick?" "why my son cant get the Surgery that can save his life because of lacking in money, while my rich neigbore can?". isntead, you say "hah... french. they surrendered. lol".

and thats why, my dear, you hate the communist. cuz patriotism is hating every other nation but yourself.

 

Posted Jul 31, '12 at 12:33pm

Jacen96

Jacen96

2,235 posts

and thats why, my dear, you hate the communist. cuz patriotism is hating every other nation but yourself.

just because you are a patriot, doesn't mean you have to hate every other nation. the reason the rich neighbor can get surgery but the poor person can't is because this America's government, like any other government, is run by politicians. And people don't hate communism, they hate the nations that call them selves communist.

 
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