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Posted Jul 22, '12 at 5:49pm

HahiHa
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Stem cell research has nothing shady about it, it would greatly enhance medical services, but people feel uncomfortable with it only because it includes living tissue. On the other hand, nanotechnologies are pushed and subventioned because it has many advantages in the industry, yet we know relatively few about the toxicity and other side effects of it.
Every innovation can be misused and manipulated, we should focus more on what actually makes sense or not. Though I agree with your first paragraph about ethics.
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Posted Jul 22, '12 at 7:28pm

EnterOrion
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I've always been under the opinion that ethics and morality have no place in modern science. Sometimes we must take life to save life, and sometimes people have to be sacrificed for the greater good. The human race's attachment to individual people confounds and puzzles me. There are seven billion of us, why would a few dozen sacrificed in the name of science and progression of our race be held sacred?
And before somebody pulls out the "what if it was you" ad hominem bologna, I would be honored.
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Posted Jul 24, '12 at 12:02am

rayoflight3
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I've always been under the opinion that ethics and morality have no place in modern science. Sometimes we must take life to save life, and sometimes people have to be sacrificed for the greater good. The human race's attachment to individual people confounds and puzzles me. There are seven billion of us, why would a few dozen sacrificed in the name of science and progression of our race be held sacred?
Well, we'd probably need more than a few dozen. And can you explain how the selection process for these individuals would work? Would it be like a simple random sample, or would we perhaps use certain kinds of people (e.g. prison inmates on death row)?
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Posted Jul 24, '12 at 12:04am

rayoflight3
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Goddammit. Disregard that post. Here we go:
I've always been under the opinion that ethics and morality have no place in modern science. Sometimes we must take life to save life, and sometimes people have to be sacrificed for the greater good. The human race's attachment to individual people confounds and puzzles me. There are seven billion of us, why would a few dozen sacrificed in the name of science and progression of our race be held sacred?
Well, we'd probably need more than a few dozen. And can you explain how the selection process for these individuals would work? Would it be like a simple random sample, or would we perhaps use certain kinds of people (e.g. prison inmates on death row)?
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Posted Jul 27, '12 at 10:37pm

Spyton
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It does. But I would choose Morales over Advancement anyday.
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Posted Jul 28, '12 at 2:01am

EnterOrion
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Well, we'd probably need more than a few dozen. And can you explain how the selection process for these individuals would work? Would it be like a simple random sample, or would we perhaps use certain kinds of people (e.g. prison inmates on death row)?
Inmates on death row have nothing to lose. So yes, they would be preferable.
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Posted Jul 28, '12 at 3:13am

Masterforger
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Yes, ethics does hinder innovation. Which is why we've developed the A-Bomb, H-Bomb and Bio-hazardous weapons. We have no real ethics that are strong enough to stop us.
"Thou shalt not kill"
That went well.
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Posted Jul 28, '12 at 8:47am

HahiHa
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Yes, ethics does hinder innovation. Which is why we've developed the A-Bomb, H-Bomb and Bio-hazardous weapons. We have no real ethics that are strong enough to stop us.
"Thou shalt not kill"
That went well.
Military has always kinda been exempt from the ethics barrier, but as soon as you turn to medicine people suddenly feel bad about it...
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