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Posted Aug 1, '12 at 3:18am

Cenere

Cenere

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Knight

If I may:
The WoM is mainly another version of the 'AG is a country, the users are characters' type of story. If you write another story of this type, it will be close to the WoM.
What matters, however, is what you do with the story, not what it is like.

As for the "make up their own story", I would say it is not in tune with what Acmed seems to be proposing. Rather, it is a more serious version of "Continue this story", which is easily done without having to deal with changing the PoV or having multiple protagonists.
Rather, it will mean the dedicated writers have a bit of discipline and actually know what they are doing. The characters have to be consistent, the time, plot and point of view.
While several books have been published with changing PoV and characters, this PoV usually lasts several chapters, which either means the writer needs to work with some 25-50 pages themselves before the next writer takes over, or that the writers still have to streamline themselves and be professional about it all.

At least if you want a consistent result that can be published.
The same goes for the illustrators, at the very least, they would need to agree on how things are drawn, colours and the likes. It will look irregular with black/white art here and a fullblown painting there.

If none of this is a concern, an OCT would probably be doable, but it is a whole different thing to writing a novel.

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 4:53am

EnterOrion

EnterOrion

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Plot director or editor. One or the other.

Let's not count my opinion that you can never have too many editors.

Writer and plot director it is.

Main Character?
Genre?
Setting?

Ha... haha. This doesn't seem like a very good place to begin designing these things. Why? Too random, not enough organization.

I won't go into main character. That's to be morphed, formed, and developed, not to just say a name and leave. Genre? Perhaps high fantasy, science fiction, or historical fiction. These are all popular genres, and fit the community nicely. Setting? As with the main character(s), this is not to just be said. It is to be planned, developed, designed.

My suggestion? Have somebody, one person, design each of the ideas within certain parameters, and then have the remaining group and agree on what should remain and what should change.

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 8:32am

bleachfairytail

bleachfairytail

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I'd like to be a plot director with maybe one or two other people? I think you have to keep a small amount of plot directors in order for it to work

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 8:47am

MoonFairy

MoonFairy

3,216 posts

My suggestion? Have somebody, one person, design each of the ideas within certain parameters, and then have the remaining group and agree on what should remain and what should change.

That one person *should* be acmed in my opinion, but that is purely up to him. He's the one who started it, therefore all rights are his.
Even though it is a community thing, It would be nice to have a certain... idea thread, then a complete thread solely for the final thing.

Having too many idea for main char, genre, and setting can blow up in your face, but let's see how it goes, and whether or not the community can sort itself out, or will we need a head honcho.

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 9:37am

EnterOrion

EnterOrion

3,615 posts

That one person *should* be acmed in my opinion, but that is purely up to him. He's the one who started it, therefore all rights are his.

Would that not defeat the purpose of a 'community novel'? Otherwise it would just be acmed's novel with a few writers helping.

But hey, it makes no difference to me. I'm still in doubt as to the future success of the idea.

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 9:48am

MoonFairy

MoonFairy

3,216 posts

but let's see how it goes, and whether or not the community can sort itself out, or will we need a head honcho.

Read it all, Oreo. XP

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 10:20am

acmed

acmed

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It would be the easiest, and it would probably give a good enough "Community feel" to get other people to help.

I agree. It would be easy to relate to, but I don't want it to be directly related to AG.

But there are multiple, so there would be multiple main characters.

If we do keep this sort of medieval plot, we will have a bit more characters than a regular book, but all will be evenly distributed throughout the book so nobody really gets confused. This is where plot directors come in.

If we are going for the AG theme, wouldn't it be Fantasy?

Medieval Fantasy. Castles, dragons, magic, basically The Elder Scrolls in a book.

We could have it so that all the writer's keep well in touch, to keep each of there main characters tied into the others and still connected in the main plot. Then post each writer's style and character's point of view at the same time. That said though, we would need to write up storyboards and the like so there a little to no flaws.

The writers will stay in touch during plotting times (in between chapters). Once the directors have a plot down, the previous writer will talk to the next writer and discuss things over. As for the storyboards, plot directors, you'll need to find a document you can keep all of the plot in. Word, Open Office, Google Docs, etc., easy enough to open and go back when ever there is confusion.

We don't want to get too close to the WoM though.

We won't. We're better than them. :P

I was thinking that we could turn the AG into our setting in a real-world emulation, with notable folk from the community acting as characters to gravitate towards. Highfire, MageGrayWolf, Gstroy, GhostofMatrix, they'll all live in this real-life idea of a society that works exactly as the forums do.

We still need to keep it balanced. These people can appear, but they won't be drastically placed. We'll just revolve around a certain number of main characters, with the exception of some background or recurring characters.

If you want to base this in the AMW, then it should be AMW people like acmed, dudeguy, and wolf

Mostly all around AG itself. I kind of imagine it as a community castle. How does that sound?

If you could expand on the idea of occupations, and the AG society, that would be great, so that way I can get more of an idea of where you are trying to go.

Bingo. You got it. We can easily translate characters on the site and translate into a fictional one. Mods can be the soldiers. Admins are the high kings of the palace. Users based on their ranking on AG are their superiority in the castle. Got anything more?

The writers would write from their own point of view, mostly. Not necessarily THEIR exact point of view, but what most other AG community stories have done, is have each person who wants to be a character, write their own bit, and then the official writer stick it all together.

"each person who wants to be a character". What do you mean by that? I agree with the rest, but we're just gonna have random people join the book? If yes, remember, character organization.

As in we would give them a prompt, like "You're stuck on an island, and you have to decide on going with Wolf or Tacky. Who would you go with and what would you do?"  And they would make up their own story.

That would make a cushion for the writers so to speak. They don't write away lolly gaggy lalalala, but get something to go with along with plot direction, just so that it seems consistent. However, the leash will be loosened a bit. The writer may use plot twists as which he/she is comfortable with. We won't make the whole plot in one post, but we'll add more as the writer's POV is caught along with others.

The WoM is mainly another version of the 'AG is a country, the users are characters' type of story. If you write another story of this type, it will be close to the WoM.

Some, but not all the users participating are characters. We won't do a, User 1 writes only about himself while User 2 writes about herself. It's a story with a plot that the writers will writer unbiased with themselves if they're in the book.

Writer and plot director it is.

Thank you!

I won't go into main character. That's to be morphed, formed, and developed, not to just say a name and leave. Genre? Perhaps high fantasy, science fiction, or historical fiction. These are all popular genres, and fit the community nicely. Setting? As with the main character(s), this is not to just be said. It is to be planned, developed, designed.

Main Character will wait until we have a beginning plot down. I should add the plural to character as we will have a bit. The genre should be fantasy. Maybe Skyrim fantasy. Dragons and all that crap. Agreed?

My suggestion? Have somebody, one person, design each of the ideas within certain parameters, and then have the remaining group and agree on what should remain and what should change.

Sounds good. Plot directors, start gathering in everything and bundle it. Got it?

That one person *should* be acmed in my opinion, but that is purely up to him. He's the one who started it, therefore all rights are his.

I'm as much as a participant as everyone else. I'm just here to keep things in charge, maybe write a bit, and keep everything in line. This is a plot director's job. And... should be starting.

Even though it is a community thing, It would be nice to have a certain... idea thread, then a complete thread solely for the final thing.

Would an idea thread annoy the mods? Maybe put it on someone's page? A Google Doc atleast?

Otherwise it would just be acmed's novel with a few writers helping.

Which won't happen. I'm not here to boss around. In fact, I've barley made any suggestions besides adding on to Moon's.

Okay. Now that that's settled, plot directors, can you look through the suggestions and gather the sole basics of the book.

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 10:39am

Cenere

Cenere

12,941 posts

Knight

Some, but not all the users participating are characters. We won't do a, User 1 writes only about himself while User 2 writes about herself. It's a story with a plot that the writers will writer unbiased with themselves if they're in the book.

It doesn't change what I said. It's just good to see you have determined not to do an OCT type thread, then, but if it's about AG as a real place, it will still fall in the same sub genre as the WoM, which was all I was trying to clear out in the first part of the post.
It's not necessarily a bad thing, whether or not you "are better than us".

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 10:41am

MoonFairy

MoonFairy

3,216 posts

Alright I'm gonna double post really soon, because I'm drawing out some ideas right now offa what we have.

So, plot director it is. Plus Specialist and Writer. I'll edit if you ever need a helping hand. ;D

Anyways, I'll draw up some stuff and share in a little bit.

 

Posted Aug 1, '12 at 10:58am

MoonFairy

MoonFairy

3,216 posts

Ack! Acmed! get back into CT! We can talk there and not spam so we can formulate a better formulated idea! D:

 
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