ForumsWEPR"french are coward who always surrender" -_-

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danielo
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well, firstly, im not french.

now, why the american public {and alot of other [non-french] western public start to belive that hte french are cowerds who always surrender?
for exmple, i just saw "that 70' show" {preety old, i know, but whatever i love it}. in one episode, red decline to sell there house to a french couple, because "they will give it to the first germans they will see".
and there is more in almost every other USA shows.

does no one remmember Napoleon? in the first world war, they won the war. there army was the one who fought in all the frontiers. in the second world war, the 'surrendered' after them and the british armies as lost.

so why peopels? why?

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loco5
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Well the italians fought an army with spears and bows (in the 30's), and still suffered 63,555 casualties...

partydevil
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how many countries have lost a war with themselves?


since when is belgium franch?
untill about a 200 year ago it belonged to the dutch.

what is a french civil war doing in belgium?
314d1
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t come on, how many countries have lost a war with themselves?



.....All of them?
elfisparsley
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elfisparsley
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If it wasn't for France's help in the american revolution, america wouldn't have one, or if they did it would have taken a lot longer. Americans should be more grateful.

thepyro222
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If it wasn't for France's help in the american revolution, america wouldn't have one, or if they did it would have taken a lot longer. Americans should be more grateful.


If they could hold their own in a war, we (the US and the UK) wouldn't have had to storm the beaches at Normandy on the 6th of June in 1944 and there wouldn't have been 12,000+ allied casualties to save their *****.
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If they could hold their own in a war, we (the US and the UK) wouldn't have had to storm the beaches at Normandy on the 6th of June in 1944 and there wouldn't have been 12,000+ allied casualties to save their *****.


If it wasn't for France's help in the american revolution, america wouldn't have one, or if they did it would have taken a lot longer. Americans should be more grateful.


Well in the civil war France could help because they had time to focus their industry on more militaristic stuff. In ww2 France was attacked without a warning whilst America had time to create a more militaristic military because they weren't threatened by Nazi Germany. In both cases had the helping party time to prepare for war/support. So I don't think any country should be grateful.
partydevil
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(the US and the UK) wouldn't have had to storm the beaches at Normandy


check your facts. d-day invasion was done by mainly by
U.S., England, France, Australia and Canada.

and the next countries also helped during the invasion
Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Norway

soo it were 11 countries not just 2.
loco5
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d-day invasion was done by mainly by
U.S., England, France, Australia and Canada.


Belgium, Czechoslovakia,


the bolded top part: you know after France was invaded, the government collaborated with the Germans, you know, Vichy France that included their army.


and i'm pretty sure Belgium wasn't really involved, and Czechoslovakia surrendered before america even entered in Europe
thepunisher93
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the bolded top part: you know after France was invaded, the government collaborated with the Germans, you know, Vichy France that included their army.

Vichy france was to germany what Karzai government is to america
and i'm pretty sure Belgium wasn't really involved, and Czechoslovakia surrendered before america even entered in Europe

Belgium and netherlands was taken over but they had their resistance movements.
loco5
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they still had troops who supported and fought with the germans


and resistance movements =/= nation

thepyro222
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check your facts. d-day invasion was done by mainly by
U.S., England, France, Australia and Canada.

and the next countries also helped during the invasion
Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Norway


When I said that, it was mainly a troll, so I wasn't trying to be accurate, but for you, source please?
ShadowArchon
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Just wanted to add that they did make a very decent defense against the germans in WW2, except tje Germans just went round it.

partydevil
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source please?


here you go =)

Which Allied nations took part in the fighting?

The majority of troops who landed on the D-Day beaches were from the United Kingdom, Canada and the US. However, troops from many other countries participated in D-Day and the Battle of Normandy, in all the different armed services: Australia, Belgium, Czechoslovakia, France, Greece, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway and Poland.


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resistance movements =/= nation

i can only speak for my country the netherlands.
we had our queen and our military officials in the uk during the war. they were working closely whit the uk military back then.
thepyro222
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Fair enough. But how many of those troops came from those other countries versus the over 100,000 troops that Canada, the US, and Great Britain provided?

partydevil
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how many of those troops came from those other countries versus the over 100,000 troops that Canada, the US, and Great Britain provided?

usa - 73.000
uk - 61.715
canada - 21.400
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total - 156.115

other nations - unknown because they were mostly part of the uk forces.
but during Operation Neptune it were 4988 man.

millions more men and women in the Allied countries were involved in the preparations for D-Day. They played thousands of different roles, both in the armed forces and as civilians.


same source.
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