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Welcome to the Art Skills Competition.

As always, there are a few rules that needs to be followed for proper judging, viewing and general fairness.

Competition Rules
- All major parts of the entry must be original material, unless otherwise stated. Heavy references, sources and other visible influences should be credited as per normal forum courtesy.
- Submissions must follow the current theme to be judged, and must be drawn for that theme specifically. You cannot submit something you drew prior to the theme being announced
- Please do not post entries larger than 670 pixels in width. If your art is larger, post a thumbnail and link to the larger version.
- Artists cannot win in subsequent rounds, but are allowed to enter said rounds.
- Entries can be drawn in any medium available.

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So, uh, I assume I don't have to come online Sunday to judge, right? Since, well, it's Friday, there's no new theme, and so on, so forth, don't gonna lengthen the deadline, all that stuff?

Super.

Instead, notes and answers on stuff, yay!
On tools of trade for this contest: If you are going to be alternative and use a programme where you are not actually creating the majority of what is on the picture (that is, using a custom brush you downloaded to draw stuff, or use rage faces or something), you really need something extraordinary and awesome to not get shrugged at an ignored from my side. It is an art contest, after all, you ought to be creating something with your own hands, even if it's the concept and presentation first.
Everyone is welcome to try, but, as with 3d art, don't count on me being completely unbiased when judging.

Would not have allowed the rage comic, considering there is NO source credits for anything, not the rage builder, not the pictures used. (And I think I have seen it elsewhere anyway, and I would not have been comfortable judging something that might not be the original work of the submitter.)
Might have allowed the RCT2 art, if it was awesome.

On the topic of the themes:
Would never use Oceans as a theme. It's vague and specific at the same time, not to say rather a setting than a conceptual idea to work by.
And I disagree that the themes need to be more specific. If people can't think up something for something as broad and loaded as Fairy Tales, they are going to have a really bad time making up hybrids or rock stars. Not to mention it defeats the purpose of what I have been pointing out since the start: This is you guys' time to shine, make up some awesome concept and show what you've got. I don't want art that looks alike, which a specific theme would most likely result in.

As for the deadline:
This here is why I have a set deadline. People know when to put it in, what to count on. Not to mention I have time to do it consistently (sans the more important obligations).
And why they are a week instead of two? Well, people have had almost two weeks now, and if the theme was as bad as they say, they would have been better off with the round ending, and a new theme chosen.

No critique of Daleks, I am rather happy he would take over this round, since I had no way of knowing if I would have had time or internet. Hopefully I will be able to resume the judgings properly, when the ASC gets back on track.

Well when did this get revived?

Check the first post. They still have dates.

who was here when the original thread got killed?

It was never killed. It stopped being proper, with no judge, entries that was just never good enough, and people almost only joining for the merit.
If anything, it was put down out of mercy rather than killed off violently.

just for kicks may I suggest something a bit more specific on the themes...like 'killer half beasts' or ' rock n' roll superstars in undeath', just saying if you say 'Oceans' everyone will get stumped on what to draw.

No, they won't.
If people can't think up something for Oceans (which is still a crappy theme, but for the sake of example), they are either stumped on inspiration, which is fair and something I can relate to, or stumped on creativity, which means they should stop entering all together.
I can understand artists' blocks and lack of inspiration, I might even understand a lack of time to do the awesome idea they have, and not wanting to do it half-butted, because it's really that good an idea, but lack of creativity to do something relating to Oceans... No.
And why is that? Because oceans are vast and different. They are a fluid mass, and anyone that has ever been out by the ocean, been on the beach, went swimming or sailed or watched any programme featuring the sea will know there are plenty of material in the theme. You could draw it calm and entirely still, like the Pacific can be, where not a wind is blowing and the water is like a mirror. Or there's a storm blowing, a ship is caught in the rage of nature, and they would most likely never get to harbour ever again. The Flying Dutchman is out there, someone sees it from shore. The colourful painting of the water, when the sun sets and rises, the small differences between the water and the air, the horizon almost disappearing in the scenery.
So, vague themes are the way to test the participants.
A theme like this, well, there are the fair tales of HC Andersen, of the ugly duckling, or the living items, the Christmas tree. Brothers Grimm had collected plenty of dark tales of girls in red, and wolves waiting in the forest, where they should not go.
Disney illustrated quite a few tales as well, making them happier and lighter, but the original tales can be translated to more adult themes.
Pan's Labyrinth is a fairy tale, for an example, dark and scary, but tempting, magical and promising.
Then there's where some have gone, into the fairies telling stories, the ideas of elven people having tales themselves, inspiration from A Midsummer Night's Dream, which is not too far fetched for something like this. Steampunk and Gaslamp Fantasy are also fine examples of something inspired by the Victorian fairy tradition, of the wonders and marvel of magic and the unspeakable.
The dictionary describe it as a story for children, of magic and dragons and elves. Lord of the Rings are thus a fairy tale (and I think Tolkien might agree, or so his "On Fairy Stories" might suggest), and most fantastical literature might be related, suggestible to this theme, and something that would be fine to submit for a judging.
And then there are modern takes, or drawing fairies or what else might be thought up seeing the theme.

So, to me, there are plenty of opportunities for marvellous art and stunning concepts.
And while it might be fun to take a more specific theme and try it out, it would not be fun for me, the judge, to look at something where the most basic concept for the art is already found. There might be a great diversity in what people could draw up hearing the words "Killer Half Beast", but the result is, to me, already in the moment I would make the round. It would not be a challenge in the same way, it would not be interesting, and people might not even struggle with it, or have that "Ooooh" feeling, when inspiration hits.

I have great hopes in everyone posting, to take up the challenge and do something new.

@Chrome: It is a nice looking piece of art, and a fine concept for the theme. The drawing is a little static and inconsistent, but it does have a fairy tale feel to it.

@Kegau: It looks cute, that. Like an illustration out of a children's book. It's simple, quite literal on the theme and gets the point across well.

@Killer: It's a little sad with the lines, but otherwise you are doing well, especially on using the photograph and the darkened quality to get a more sinister concept. But, hah, now you can't use Slenderman for any upcoming horror themes!

@Gabo: I like it, it's another alternative take on the theme, it's very Shakespearian, and would most likely have told a great story as well. The mirror image in the water is a little badly angled, but otherwise an interesting piece and with your delightful detailed atmosphere.

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[quote]@Chrome: It is a nice looking piece of art, and a fine concept for the theme. The drawing is a little static and inconsistent, but it does have a fairy tale feel to it.

Hey! Thanks mate! I know its a bit sketchy and stuff... (Did it in within 2 hours and handed in before the extended deadline...) But thanks, Cen.

BTW... When is the judging going to take place? I am itching for the next theme...

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@Chrome: It is a nice looking piece of art, and a fine concept for the theme. The drawing is a little static and inconsistent, but it does have a fairy tale feel to it.


Hey! Thanks mate! I know its a bit sketchy and stuff... (Did it in within 2 hours and handed in before the extended deadline...) But thanks, Cen.

BTW... When is the judging going to take place? I am itching for the next theme...

(By the way can you delete the post above? I accidentally forgot to close the qoute...)
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But, hah, now you can't use Slenderman for any upcoming horror themes!
Killersup had another thing in mind anyway,somthing much more sinister.Somthing with much more upfront horror then the mind horror that slenderman bring to the table.
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Sorry this took so long guys. You know, life. If you want to comment on how I did, just hit me up on my profile.

Last theme: Fairy tale

4 entries! Not bad, not bad at all. Yes, some of you are probably thinking, âHey, there were 5 entries! Daleks cannot count.â While the latter is sometimes true, it is not the case today. I am not counting Zombieman's drawing because it is just memes, and I donât think he made it.
Anyway, the Winner is:
gaboloth

The picture is well done I can tell, slightly ruined by the scanner quality which sucks. It fits the theme nicely, having the classic guy gets girl in the background. It also has a lot of mystery to it, because of the elf guy. Did the elf want the girl? Did he help them get together? It could go either way. The drawing is great, especially the trees which look really realistic. The reflection of the elf in the pond is not my favorite and I believe could have been a little better. Other then that, I think it was very well done. Good job gaboloth!

Follow Ups:
ChromeDeathRazor
http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r588/Joe_Png/b83b3498.jpg
Mixing sci-fi with fantasy was great. The guy is obviously the focus of the picture because of the use of darker lines. The fairies are well done, but you cannot tell their emotions. Try working on small faces and putting some detail in there. The mushrooms look slightly out of place, like they donât belong. I believe it is the size of them and maybe the fact they donât have shadows. Still a great drawing that fit the theme well.
kegaumongo
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/kegaumongo/Intent2reduit2.jpg
How would that be out of theme? Anyway it is a nice drawing. It is funny how a fairy is reading âHuman Talesâ. It was just a bit too simple for me. I felt as though you could have added a bit more to the background or maybe thrown in some color to make it more interesting. I hope you do keep on drawing for the competition though.
killersup
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Like kegaumongoâs I think it is a little simple. There really is no background, and the tree just makes it look awkward. Also I donât understand why to the side of the tree it is darker then to the left of the tree. The drawing of SlenderMan is good, even though I donât know much about him. Try working on the background next time and it will be a lot better.

Next Topic: Collage

That's right! Just make a collage of whatever you want. If you don't know what a collage is just Google it.

Due: Sunday 23

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Everyone is welcome to try, but, as with 3d art, don't count on me being completely unbiased when judging.

Don't worry Cen. I would have done the same thing.
Would not have allowed the rage comic

Haha, I probably would not have allowed it even if he had sourced it. I could make that in 10 seconds. Plus it wasn't his. I swear I have seen it before.
And I disagree that the themes need to be more specific.

So is my theme OK? You can change it if you really hate it.


And just so you know Cen, I didn't see your post before posting mine. So anything we said similar is just awesome people thinking alike.
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Also I donât understand why to the side of the tree it is darker then to the left of the tree. The drawing of SlenderMan is good, even though I donât know much about him. Try working on the background next time and it will be a lot better.


watch a few documentaries on him,then you will know why the picture looked so strange.Slenderman sends people insane with his tricks,thus making the person looking at the picture think that they are not seeing it correctly.Meaning that slender is near,and he has chosen you for his next game.
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Well if he plays tricks then you could have made the image blurry. Or added somethings that looked like they could be there but shouldn't.

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Or added somethings that looked like they could be there but shouldn't.


it was a sudden burst of imagination,Killersup made it in like 15 minutes.Now,the project he worked on today took about a hour....and is MUCH better designed.
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Erm... Just askin'... How many characters do you think is enough for a collage?

I was planing to draw a group of characters and wonder how much i should put in there.

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Wait... Collage... does this mean we have to cut and paste stuff?

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So is my theme OK? You can change it if you really hate it.

I have no idea how to judge something, where it isn't the concept that comes from one source, but the medium and presentation that has to be the same.
I also would have no idea how to enter this round, which tends to be my final decision making factor in choosing a theme.

So, well.
No idea. I guess it's up to people to figure something out.

Note: Would have been nice with a link back to the last judging, like I do. Then people can see the former judgings, without having to deal with looking through a number of pages.
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does this mean we have to cut and paste stuff?

No, you can draw stuff to make a collage.
I was planing to draw a group of characters and wonder how much i should put in there.

As many as you want. Collages tend to not have much negative space, at least in my mind. So it is up to you.
I have no idea how to judge something, where it isn't the concept that comes from one source, but the medium and presentation that has to be the same.
I also would have no idea how to enter this round, which tends to be my final decision making factor in choosing a theme.

I feel like I failed you Cen.
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Nah, stuff happens, I am sure I will wing it has good or bad as anyone entering this round.
Who said the judge shouldn't be challenged as well?

The link would have been nice, though.

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If you are going to be alternative and use a programme where you are not actually creating the majority of what is on the picture (that is, using a custom brush you downloaded to draw stuff, or use rage faces or something), you really need something extraordinary and awesome to not get shrugged at an ignored from my side.


I guess it does matter what the judge sees as extraordinary. I remain unimpressed from seeing most art despite the fact that 99% of the time it's better than anything I could ever create, but a RCT2 creation, if it's better than anything I've ever made, never fails to impress me.

Nonetheless, RCT2 art probably does not fit in this contest anyway because most people who aren't avid players of the game could care less about the in-game creations of others. Which is why it needs a contest of its own, except I'd probably be the only participant, and that wouldn't work too well seeing as I'd also be the judge.
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