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jt25rox
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American solider 4 years of service- govt pays after service $0
American solider wounded- govt pays medical costs
American soliders serves 20 years- govt gives full pention
American solider killed/POW/MIA - family gets $0
Congressman after 2 years- full pention better than the 20yr solider
Senator 6 years- same as congressman
Barack Obama so far has served 2 yrs as a sentor and 4 as a president- gets a sentors pention plus a presidential pention

Now how can we let americans risks their lives and not get some help afterward when we are paying an ineffective government alot of money

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EnterOrion
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Because that's how life works. Soldiers aren't there to make money, at least not in the government's eye.

Besides, if you gave every soldier a senator's pension after 4 years, the government would go bankrupt in a day.

jroyster22
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JT,

Unfortunately, this is how america works... Rich get richer..... You know the rest.

danielo
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not only america. in Israel its the same.
but thats how the world go. its was since teh dawn of time. soliders are not the head of the country. they just worker, who work in a quite dangeruse job. and with all the affort you do to becaume a president/consule/prime-minister, you have to have the option to rise up with the salary. they 'role' the countrey after all, a 24/7/356*4 job. in which you are risked too. there are thousands {if not more} peoples who want to see you dead, adn its a very demanding job. plus, a low salary wil 'open the gate' for massive bribery.

Jacen96
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in my opinion, we shouldn't be paying the politicians much more than the soldiers. They are there to work for us, yet it seems they only care about themselves. That is why this country is in debt, and that is why it is not going to get better any time soon.

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I believe it depends from the branch of military, and also how high up the ranks you are. My father was a military pilot, he made more money than any of our senators. Or, that's just in Serbia.

But soldiers do not apply to be soldiers for the money. It is never because of money, they know they will not receive money from serving the military. So, why are you so affected by it, if the people that are in the military themselves hardly care at all? Of course, there's the problem of the politician making much more money for doing virtually nothing, but that's a different thing

BRAAINZz
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That's funny, complaining won't do anything near change this. This is the way your country runs. The Congressman, with their oversized pay checks tell the underpaid soldiers to work for them and kill people.

Masterforger
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Long gone are the days an honorable man got his fair keep, so long gone you'd have to search up something called the "War of the Roses" to get an idea. Now, corporation own everything. A bowyer, a smith, a craftsman, are all lost terms to our useless version of society. And you wonder why terrorists are trying to incite nuclear war and revert the world to a simpler state. Not that they're good, but Coca Cola's no great shakes either. Or most governments.
Which would you prefer? Millions of dead people but the honest man gets his fair keep, or keep the world as it is?

EmperorPalpatine
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Which would you prefer? Millions of dead people but the honest man gets his fair keep, or keep the world as it is?

Quite a fallicious argument you're presenting. What makes you think that greed can be eradicated by killing millions?
Masterforger
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It can't. That's why we invented doomsday! Or...the one church or another did. If anyone knows that we're in the wrong, it's the large section of religious people.

Salvidian
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How do you expect to pay millions of soldiers a more money without raising taxes?

And you just know them government folks won't give up their cash.

danielo
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you just dont get it.
most of these peoples are educated mans. if they wont go to politics, they will go work in a big company.
so, if they wont get enough money, which will make the job more attractive, people will just stop to care.
i want to go because of ideaoligy, and thats how it always begin, but you have to feed your family. as i said, its a hard job.
sure, soliders risk their life, but they are just piones on the board. the leaders are these who move the buisness.

and no, they dont care just for themselves. they try to stay 'on the chair', so they will eb able to save ther agenda. bibi netanyao might seems like a one who do everything to just stay, change his mind by the mass cry, but his realy goal is "to choose is battles'. so that he might succseed in doing stuff he think are goods. he know that if {and i hope and want to} we will kick him out of his job and vote in the next elections to someone else, we wont bomb Iran {which i am compeltly against}.
remmember that guys.. shouting "they are bribed" "they just care about money" is just not fair. yes, there are some guys who becaome rotten, and use there power for helping themselves and the ones they care, but who of us wont fall into it in our life? its start by that you know a friend abilities and say to yourself "he will be realy good for this job" and end by hiving money to family cuz "they need it" and "it wont change anything".

Kevin4762
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hundreds of years from now people will wonder why we ever had democracies, or even government for that matter.

Blackbeltr0
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it is bad but we cant do much about it except cut the people who get lots of money to little money which would not work

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hundreds of years from now people will wonder why we ever had democracies, or even government for that matter

Hundred years ago, someone must have said the same
Jacen96
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Reason congressman have such high paychecks.

senetor/congressmen is recognized and proposes a motion. "I move we get a raise."

Motion gets seconded, and is voted upon, vote is unaiminous, congressmen get higher pay.

~~~Darth Caedus

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