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Posted Sep 20, '12 at 8:42pm

superbobdabest

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vick showing that he is one of the 6 QBs to havea perfect season so far can show he has the ability to clinch the playoffs

 

Posted Sep 23, '12 at 12:08pm

vinster132

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Yeah, he's doing alright. But those picks have to go away. College football wise UL Monroe is scaring every big conference team. They smacked Arkansas and scared Auburn and Baylor. Talking about Arkansas, they're dying out there. Getting worse and worse even more everyday. Lost to Rutgers yesterday.

 

Posted Sep 27, '12 at 2:21am

superbobdabest

superbobdabest

298 posts

well the NFl controls college

the best teams from 2011 are the wort in 2012 and the worst in 2011 are the best in 2012

ok so lets talk injuries

jets head conerback darrelle revis is out for the season with a torn ACL

texans QB Matt schuab gets sacked as his helmet comes of during his game agianst denver omn saturday
he was out for only 1 play even though he lost a smallchunk ok his ear
he is scheduled to play his next game agianst the titans

VERY scary moment in oakland
darrius heyward-bay get hit hard in the head and knocked out sunday afternoon agianst pittsburg
the official had all the player take a knee as it took medical staff OVER 15 minutes to put him on a strecher, put him on a cart and drive him off the field to an ambulance
he is questional about week 4

did anyone see the hit it was crazy

 

Posted Sep 27, '12 at 4:23pm

vinster132

vinster132

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texans QB Matt schuab gets sacked as his helmet comes of during his game agianst denver omn saturday
he was out for only 1 play even though he lost a smallchunk ok his ear
he is scheduled to play his next game agianst the titans

Good thnig he didn't get a concussion. Quarterbacks who get hit and get smacked to the ground/ Helmet goes off. There goes an injury.

VERY scary moment in oakland
darrius heyward-bay get hit hard in the head and knocked out sunday afternoon agianst pittsburg
the official had all the player take a knee as it took medical staff OVER 15 minutes to put him on a strecher, put him on a cart and drive him off the field to an ambulance

I was watching the game. They should've called personal foul. But Raiders, good overall play. Smart defense at the end of the game. Great execution on offense. But the key to them winning, was penalties. They averaged over 10 flags last season. Not a lot in that game.

Surprising upset: Vikings over 49ers

 

Posted Oct 1, '12 at 6:32pm

1zth

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WERE BACK!!!
I LOVE TIM TEBOW...Who dosen't???
I HATE MARK SANCHEZ THE JETS SHOULD PLAY TEBOW THEY LOSE FOR MANY REASONS!

Is it even worth noting that the Jets technically top the standings when their tie-breaking 2-0 divisional record is factored in?

The answer is: No.

The 2012 Jets' chances of contending depended on several things breaking right, each of which has gone spectacularly wrong in the first four games.

First and most obviously, the Jets needed to stay healthy. But last week, their best player suffered a season-ending injury. Darrelle Revis’s torn ACL represented The Unthinkable, a possibility too horrible to be grappled with earnestly before it happened. Nobody quite knew what horrors would visit the Jets without him.

As it turned out yesterday, there were plenty, starting with the poor play of Kyle Wilson, Revis’s replacement in the starting lineup, who stood out even on a day where all facets of the Jets broke down.

Wilson’s rough day started when he was flagged for a pass interference call on the game’s first play from scrimmage. It continued on the 49ers’ first score of the game, a run by backup quarterback Colin Kaepernick on which Wilson made what Daily News Jets reporter Kevin Armstrong aptly called “a brief frisk attempt” in lieu of a tackle.

Before and after that were many completions, and, more incriminatingly, at least three near-completions that would have gone for big yardage if not for overthrows by 49ers quarterback Alex Smith. Wilson’s reactions to these near-death experiences was surprising: He wagged his finger after one of them (“Don’t you dare test me!”) and made the popular spoon-to-mouth “Keep feedin’ me!” gesture after another.

In reality, testing Wilson was exactly what the 49ers did all game and what other teams will surely do for the rest of the season. His displays of misplaced bravado did nothing but feed the narrative about the Jets’ deluded conception of their own abilities.

So the pass defense is in trouble. More worrisome yet, the run defense is in bigger trouble. After giving up 245 rushing yards yesterday, the Jets are giving up an average of 173 yards per game, ranking 31st in the league.

REVIS' INJURY PRETTY MUCH REMOVES the possibility that the Jets will be as good on defense as in years past. So the burden shifts to the offense to improve upon its below-average performance of the past several seasons.

We all know how that has gone: The offense was shut out yesterday, and has just one touchdown in its last 34 possessions.

Mark Sanchez, playing in an era in which quarterbacks complete 62 percent of their passes, now has a 49.2 completion percentage, after three straight games in which he has failed to top 50 percent.

Yesterday was the nadir. The Jets’ 30 passing plays resulted in 100 yards for them, and an interception and a fumble recovery for a touchdown for the 49ers. Whether or not Sanchez “regressed” last year is subject to debate over which statistics mean more, but it’s incontrovertible this year.

What’s most worrisome about Sanchez is that no facet of his game seems to have improved. His accuracy has been terrible this year, a fact reflected not only in his numbers but also the visuals of him missing wide-open throws. He’s still prone to the blooperish catastrophic mistake, like his interception on a screen pass yesterday that otherwise was destined for big yardage and a chance for the Jets to get back into the game. Worse yet, his pocket presence is no better now than it was when he was a rookie, making it hard to imagine that he'll ever harness his above-average athleticism for his position.

Three seasons and four games into his career, Sanchez has been close-to-average at best and terrible at worst. About the only thing he has going for him now is that it appears the Jets don’t take backup Tim Tebow seriously as a quarterback, and have no interest in inviting any more controversy about Sanchez’s job security.

So his job is probably secure for the next twelve games. But this is officially a crisis now. There are no more “young quarterback” excuses.

And Sanchez’s uphill task of saving both the Jets’ season and his job got a lot harder on the first play of the fourth quarter yesterday, when Santonio Holmes sustained a foot injury that, pending an MRI, appears that it will sideline him for multiple games.

The Jets have leaned heavily on Holmes this year: He practically won their Week 3 game against Miami himself with a 147-yard outing, and was sixth in the N.F.L. with 11 targets per game going into yesterday.

All of that from someone everyone thought the Jets would love to get rid of if only his prohibitive contract didn’t make that next to impossible. But it’s been that kind of year for the Jets: First they want to get rid of him, then they find out he’s indispensible, and now he’s gone.

GOOD BYE

 

Posted Oct 2, '12 at 12:44am

vinster132

vinster132

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I respect Tebow as a person. He seems like a cool guy to hang out with. But on the field he can't throw. He shows good effort. Sanchez gives them a b better chance. Yeah he is pretty meh too.

 

Posted Oct 2, '12 at 11:20pm

superbobdabest

superbobdabest

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Surprising upset: Vikings over 49ers

surprising upset of huge shocker
they were the team to beat
who is the team to beat now
i say either falcons or texans

I LOVE TIM TEBOW...Who dosen't???

i know right
he is so cool
i love to tebow myself

@1zth
you love this tebow sanchez expiriment dont you

I respect Tebow as a person. He seems like a cool guy to hang out with. But on the field he can't throw. He shows good effort. Sanchez gives them a b better chance. Yeah he is pretty meh too

i agree
hes a nice, holy, kind, respectful, fun kind of guy
but he cant go into the 4th qurter every time and try to get a comeback

and soorry ive been unactive in the forums lately im taking a little break from them

 

Posted Oct 3, '12 at 6:30pm

1zth

1zth

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WERE BACK!!!
I've been watching every game every season I record them all. If I can't I go on the internet and I have some bold NFL predictions.

@1zth
you love this tebow sanchez expiriment dont you

Not so much. I think he should go anywhere where he'll be the starting QB.

I respect Tebow as a person. He seems like a cool guy to hang out with. But on the field he can't throw. He shows good effort. Sanchez gives them a b better chance. Yeah he is pretty meh too

I think he can really bad moments and amazing moments.
Now here's some news for the 3 undefeated teams!

The unbeaten Arizona Cardinals face the Rams at St. Louis on Thursday in a division that in just two years has gone from the NFL’s weakest to one of its closest fought.

In 2010 the Seattle Seahawks drew some scorn when they made it to the playoffs out of the NFC West with a 7-9 record, but after four games of this year the division is one of just two in the league where no team has a losing record.

The Cardinals, on 4-0, are surprise leaders ahead of the higher-rated San Francisco 49ers (3-1), while the Rams and the Seahawks are 2-2.

The NFC East is the only other division without a losing team after a quarter of the season, and the rise in quality in their division is something Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt said he was prepared for.

“That’s one of the things we all talked about going into this season, that every team had improved it was going to be a tough division,” Whisenhunt said. “It sure looks like that’s the way it is after only four games.”

The teams go into the clash on the back of closely fought wins: the Rams enjoyed a 19-13 victory at Seattle while the Cardinals came back to beat the Miami Dolphins in overtime 24-21.

The Cardinals are 4-0 for the first time since 1974 and have won 11 of their past 13 games, the best record in the NFL over that span.

Arizona’s form is even more impressive given that they lost their starting quarterback in the first game of the season.

Kevin Kolb had never established himself as a starter in his six years in the NFL and began this season watching from the sidelines until John Skelton suffered an injury in the fourth quarter of Week One.

Taking his chance, Kolb is ninth in the NFL in passing rating (97.6), has thrown seven touchdown passes and just two interceptions, and is rated second in the league on passing on third downs, although the fact he was sacked eight times against Miami indicates there is plenty for Arizona and Kolb to work on.

It is also clear that Kolb is growing in self-belief.

“I’ve reached this confidence level before. I don’t ever want to get too high or too low but the more plays and the more victories you get and the more experiences you go through, it just gives you the confidence that you can handle things,” he said.

The Rams have won as many games this year as they managed in all of last season’s disastrous 2-14 campaign, with new head coach Jeff Fisher making his influence felt.

“Clearly the past speaks for itself,” Fisher said in a conference call.

“It’s been a difficult few years. What you do, you move forward and let that go. From the time we started the off-season program to date, guys have a different type of expectation. They know you can’t fix this thing overnight. But they know if you work hard, study hard, you have a chance in every game.”

Fisher has a promising young quarterback in Sam Bradford but knows the key to Thursday’s game will be protecting him from a talented Arizona defense.

“When you think you have them figured out and blocked up, somebody is running free and hitting your quarterback,” Fisher said.
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HOUSTON " As good as the Houston Texans [team stats] have been in getting off to the best start in franchise history, they’re focused on playing even better.

“To end the month of September 4-0 is great for our team and our organization,” quarterback Matt Schaub said after the Texans’ 38-14 win over the Tennessee Titans [team stats] on Sunday. “But there are a lot of things we can correct from this game.”

The Texans were outgained 325-297 by the Titans (1-3), but their defense came through with big plays in the second half to clinch a win in which Danieal Manning and Kareem Jackson returned interceptions for touchdowns, Schaub threw two TD passes and Arian Foster ran for a score.

Titans quarterback Jake Locker left in the first quarter and didn’t return after hurting his left, non-throwing shoulder on a hit by Glover Quin. Locker hurt the same shoulder in the season opener against New England.

Matt Hasselbeck threw two touchdown passes in relief of Locker, but also had three turnovers. Tennessee coach Mike Munchak said Locker was “sore” and would have an MRI exam Monday.

Houston coach Gary Kubiak loves that his defense pitched in on the scoring.

“Anytime you can get 14 points from some place other than your offense that’s exceptional,” Kubiak said. “It just makes you that much tougher to beat.”

Houston went to work quickly with an 11-yard touchdown reception by James Casey to make it 7-0 in the first quarter.

The Texans challenged the spot on a third-and-1 play on their next series, giving them a first down at the Tennessee 11. Foster took it in from 4 yards out two plays later to push Houston’s lead to 14-0 near the end of the first quarter.

The Titans used a good dose of Chris Johnson on a drive that ended with a 19-yard touchdown reception by Craig Stevens to cut Houston’s lead to 14-7 in the second quarter.

Johnson entered the game having gained just 45 yards in the first three games combined, but had 25 carries for 141 yards on Sunday for his first 100-yard outing since last December.

“It’s frustrating,” defensive end J.J. Watt said of Johnson’s performance. “We’re not happy we gave up those yards.”

Johnson said he was very concerned about Tennessee’s running game through the first three weeks of the season. But on Sunday he knew from the outset that things were going to be different. He said it helped that he got a good number of carries before halftime after having just 33 combined through his three disappointing games.

“When you’re playing running back, you can feel when you’re in your groove,” he said. “I just felt like I was in my groove early and that’s when I knew.”

But he isn’t ready to proclaim Tennessee’s problems in the running game fixed.

“I think today helped us take a step,” he said. “I wouldn’t say we ultimately solved the problem, but I feel like we took a good step and hopefully we continue to get better.”
Houston’s offense got off to a slow start in the second half, but the defense picked up the slack. Manning intercepted a pass that was tipped by tight end Taylor Thompson and Manning made a zigzagging 55-yard return for the touchdown to make it 21-7 in the third quarter.

The Titans were disappointed that they were within striking distance in the second half, only to watch things get out of hand so quickly.

“Probably the story of the game would be turnovers and their defense scoring points, and the penalties that cost us not only momentum, but big yards,” Hasselbeck said. “It’s frustrating because I feel like we’re not that far away. But we didn’t play great and we had turnovers and I was a part of three of them. It’s just frustrating because I know we’re capable of a lot more. They were just clearly a lot better than us today.”

The Titans were penalized seven times for 73 yards and Houston had just one penalty for three yards.

Hasselbeck fumbled when he was hit by Antonio Smith in the fourth quarter, and J.J. Watt recovered at the Tennessee 24. Shayne Graham kicked a 33-yard field goal with 5:38 left.

Jackson intercepted Hasselbeck in the fourth quarter and returned it 63 yards for a touchdown to push the lead to 38-7. He did his best impression of Deion Sanders at the end, high-stepping the last 10 yards.

Hasselbeck threw a short TD pass to Kendall Wright in the final minute.

NOTES: Watt has 7½ sacks this season. ... The Texans topped 30 points for the third time in four games. ... Graham reached 1,000 career points. ... Texans RG Antoine Caldwell left in the second quarter with a sprained right ankle. ... Titans LB Patrick Bailey, a special-teams player, injured his left hand and stayed in the game. Munchak said he would be re-evaluated on Monday. ... Johnson earned his 29th career 100-yard game.
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The first time the Falcons ever started a season 4-0 they ended up succumbing to injuries and, perhaps, their own doubts about whether they really were that good.

The second time the Falcons were perfect through four games they ended up winning the NFC South and advancing to the NFC championship game.

The Falcons, 4-0 for just the third time in franchise history, are looking to finish more like 2004 than 1986.

“They have a very, very good chance,” said Gerald Riggs, the Pro Bowl running back on the 1986 Falcons team. “Everybody can look to everything in the regular season, but the proof is what happens in the postseason. They should have no issue getting in the postseason.”

That’s the way it appears with the Falcons already three games ahead of Tampa Bay and Carolina and four games clear of the Saints. Atlanta already defeated Carolina, owns two road victories and boasts the No. 3 scoring offense in the league.

But, as the 1986 Falcons discovered, a promising season can unravel fast.

Expectations were low for the Falcons in 1986. They had posted back-to-back 4-12 seasons under coach Dan Henning and managed just three winning seasons since starting play in 1966 (not counting the strike-shortened 1982 season) .

The Falcons opened the season with a victory at New Orleans but there still were about 10,000 empty seats at Fulton County Stadium when they defeated the St. Louis Cardinals the next week. The perception of the Falcons changed after they won at Dallas in Week 3.

The Falcons were greeted by fans at the airport when they returned to Atlanta.

“They estimated there were a couple thousand fans in the concourse when we got off the plane,” said David Archer, Atlanta’s starting quarterback in 1986. “They were lined up in the concourse and we were high-fiving fans. It really was a great scene.”

After Atlanta won in overtime at Tampa Bay in Week 4, Fulton County Stadium was nearly full for the next week’s game against the Eagles. The Falcons’ streak ended with a 16-0 loss to the Eagles and new coach Buddy Ryan’s famed “46″ defense.

But Atlanta recovered to defeat the Los Angeles Rams at home the next week and rallied to forge a tie at San Francisco to stand 5-1-1. That was the final high point for the Falcons, who started a five-game losing streak at Los Angeles the next week.

Archer said the team’s depth wasn’t good to begin with and then injuries, including a separated shoulder suffered by Archer in Week 11, took their toll. Archer said the Falcons, who finished 7-8-1, also they didn’t handle the increased expectations well.

“We just kind of lost that momentum,” he said. “We were on a team that didn’t expect to win; we were just hoping to get off to a fast start. I think we got a little bit tight and started trying not to lose.”

By the time the Falcons lost in Week 14 to Indianapolis, which hadn’t won a game until then, Fulton County Stadium was half full and the excitement generated by the hot start had fizzled.

“After we went on the five-game losing streak, I don’t think even the [airport] baggage people came out to meet us,” Riggs said, laughing. “It was, ‘You have the key. Let yourself in.’ But it certainly it was a great time for something to happen in the city. We thought we got some things turned around.”

The 2004 Falcons had higher hopes than the 1984 team but their big season came one year later than expected.

Anticipation was high for the 2003 season after the Falcons became the first team in NFL history to win a playoff game at Green Bay’s Lambeau Field the previous January. Those hopes took a hit when star quarterback Michael Vick suffered a leg fracture during the 2003 preseason and was out for most of the year.

Vick was healthy for the 2004 season but Jim Mora had replaced Dan Reeves as coach.

“Jim Mora thought we could still capture the momentum [from 2002] that we thought was gone,” said Alge Crumpler, Atlanta’s Pro Bowl tight end in 2004. “As the season got going we found out we had something pretty special.”

Atlanta’s 4-0 start included victories at San Francisco, vs. the Rams and Cardinals, and at Carolina. The Falcons lost two of their next three games before another four-game winning streak sent them on their way to an 11-5 record. Atlanta defeated the Rams in the divisional playoffs before losing at Philadelphia in the conference championship game.

Statistically, the 2004 Falcons were mediocre on both sides of the ball and were prone to wild swings in performance, especially on offense. They had six games in which they scored 14 points or less and four games in which they scored 30 points or more.

Crumpler said the 2004 team had “one of the closest-knit locker rooms I ever had” and showed character through adversity.

“We were a little inconsistent, at best, but I felt like there wasn’t a team on our schedule we felt like we couldn’t beat,” Crumpler said. “I think as I watch this year’s team they are more consistent.”

The 2012 Falcons also say they are a close group with good chemistry. Crumpler noted that these Falcons have more offensive talent than the 2004 team, which relied heavily on Vick and Warrick Dunn to churn out rushing yards.

Riggs said, unlike the current Falcons, the 1986 team “didn’t really have all the pieces to make that kind of [championship] run.” Archer said another difference between the current Falcons and both the 1986 and 2004 teams is “they expect to win.”

“You saw against Carolina [on Sunday], they had the ball at the one [on the final drive] and still had a ‘never say die’ attitude,” Archer said.

The Falcons rallied to defeat the Panthers and remain one of three undefeated teams. The Texans are 4-0 for the first time in their short history and the Cardinals last were 4-0 in 1974.

Crumpler said the Falcons shouldn’t take their strong start for granted.

“The longer you play, the more you realize how hard it is to win in this league and appreciate the good things that happen to you,” he said. “Nothing is easy in this league.”

The unit 29th against the run (146.2 yards per game), ninth against the pass (206.8 yards) and it has forced the opposing quarterbacks into a passer rating of 68.7, which is fifth lowest in the NFL.

THATS IT!

 

Posted Oct 7, '12 at 5:59pm

superbobdabest

superbobdabest

298 posts

The unbeaten Arizona Cardinals face the Rams at St. Louis on Thursday in a division that in just two years has gone from the NFL’s weakest to one of its closest fought.

well they lost
theyve been having close wins and now i think cardnials is heading downhill

THATS IT!

alot

who do you think will hold the undeafeted year longer texans or falcons

id say texans because i think they are a more complete team compared to the falcons
falcons offense might be better but houston's defense and special teams is what will be the difference

 

Posted Oct 7, '12 at 6:02pm

vinster132

vinster132

5,494 posts

The unbeaten Arizona Cardinals face the Rams at St. Louis on Thursday in a division that in just two years has gone from the NFL’s weakest to one of its closest fought.

Cardinals lose. Very good defensive play from the Rams. They pressured and hit Kevin Kolb hard.

Falcons are still undefeated so far. Griffin took a wham on that play. Kirk Cousins came in and threw a good deep ball. But in the end. Their efforts were not enough to knock off the Falcons. But Panthers should've beat last week. Clumsy mistake by Cam Newton. I guess he was excited and knew that he would get the first down. But forgot about the ball.

 
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