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Posted Sep 8, '12 at 6:19pm

superdark33

superdark33

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btw, superdark is my new account up until ill be able to fix my old account.

 

Posted Sep 9, '12 at 8:47am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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i dont realy think they will nuke as too, but i am affraid that "they will get balls". when they will be secure that we wont assult them, they will start going to "adventures".

Adventures like Operation orchid and Opera?
and i hope you do have some ethical problme about killing all the indians? i hope you have. because i am against any mass killing. you know, when in a debate {in Israel} someone say "we need to kill them all", espiecely after a terrorist attack, i cant stop myself from going to this person and argue with him. i cant understand peopels who say "we need to kill all". these 'enemies' are peoples! so you say its ok to kill all the indians,

No, its not OK to kill innoccents, I was just showing the bad blood b/w nations.As these events have happenned
but its a crime thatwe fight terrorism?

That will be funny watching Israel fighting Itself.
 

Posted Sep 9, '12 at 9:04am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,863 posts

USA and England and Israel are the reason for all of its problmes {yea, they burn england flags too}.

They are right in saying this.
If not for U.K and america, there would not have been Israel.
Hence, there would have been peace in ME.
AS FOR REST OF THE POST
by god you sound more crazier than
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sith-lord-killed-family-need-money-for-light-saber.jpg
 

Posted Sep 9, '12 at 7:14pm

superdark33

superdark33

17 posts

No, i meant like eygept blockading the straits of the red sea or pakistans trying to conquer kashmir, or Hitler conquering Denemark. these are "adventures", act that suppost to see "what will happen", trying to show mucles. not protective acts of destroieng a Threats of the existing of a nation. a nukeclear wepone by a sworn enemy is a quite big threat, isnt it?

Thankes to the UK adn USA, there will be no Jordan too, so the Jordanian king need to leave too?
so its ok to say that its a good thing to kill peoples because 70 years ago there goverment did something? attacking emmbesies, assultint Tourists and crying for blood?

And about The evil Indian soliders. Did you ever heard a story of a solider? i did. my grandfather fought in teh Israeli war of indipendence. he told me what fear you feel fighting in a urban place, wher every seconde a man ca njump out and shoot you.
when war goes gurrila, citizens get hurt. when a rebel set his base in a village and kill soliders from it, his neighbores will get hit too. its a fact. i havent saw any wepone who neve miss or have Collateral damage. invite one, and things like this wont happen again.
My dad was in lebanone. he was a tank commander. he told me, that when they passed fields, some poor stuiped dudes died because they just stoped for a seconde, to grab an apple. I dont know what exectly happened for him in Lebanon {i find out mor eand more slowly}, but other peoples tell that when you see a shadow run in the bushes, you dont gentely ask him if he want to kill you or not. when this thing can be a harmless kid or a kid with an RPG, you dont wait for the other side to act first. Its war goddamet, not a Chess game.
And as i said, its happene in every war who took place in urban landscape. since a man used city buildings as cover, Used villages as bases and reasorce for gurrila acting, innocents people got hurt. Its sad, its wrong, but this is modern warfare.
When this new ind of war, of a Country against armed citizenry, the line between a fighter and a citizen is very thin. can you hit only teh adult with the gun, or the boy with who throw a grenade and hide too? In stalingrad, dogs bombs were used, does shooting every dog because of a possible threat is wrong then?

Its a sad truth. I realy get mad reading or hearing about these conflicts. But, as i said over and over again, this is modern warfare. when you use your citizens and reserves and shields, they get hit too. So dont start tell me how wrong other peoples are, when the Pakistans are saint on earts. here, i can do it too. and remmember, the answer you will tell me about this subject, tell to yourself about what you blame Israel, India and everyone else who got to this mudy situation of fighting in urban place. change the names maybe, but it will be the same "well, but we defended ourself"/"we didnt did it!"/"they did it to themselve, its not us"/etc.

It remind me, once i talked with a turkish man. he told me that we are killing the inoccent palestinians. i told him "so what are you do to the kurdish?". so he told me "well its diffrunte. they are terrorists". so what the diffrunce? "no, they want to take lands that we won. any diffrunce? "no no! they bomb buses and kill innconete citizens". and so it goes until he get mad and just walked away {ok, it was on a MMO... [runescape btw]}. The point is, never watch over a situation over one prespective. see what the other side see too. this is what i tell to all these peoples who ask me "so if they {the arabs} are not evil, why they attack us?".

I dont want any country which say that the divine goals are killing other peoples to get wepones which let her do this goal.
And Iran, dear friend, is a country that will use the protective shield of teh nuke to do Terrible things.

and back to the Iranian nuke...

What do yo say about the canadian act? they declear that they break diplomatic relations with Iran. {I have to say, i had a tear in my eye when i saw this on the news. these brave people, who have nothing to do with this conflict, take a side in a brave act. go Canada!}

PS - you dont belive in star wars?! its happened very long ago, far far away! you just have to belive! Support this man! How much a light saber cost?

 

Posted Sep 10, '12 at 9:10am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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pakistans trying to conquer kashmir,

UN called for a referendum, India does not let it happen, You decide.
Pakistans are saint on earts. here

As far as I remember, we were under a dictatorship.
and I would reccomend reading "witness to surrender" on this subject.
 

Posted Sep 10, '12 at 4:34pm

superdark33

superdark33

17 posts

Sorry, punisher, If i got this into private areas, i realt am. i respect your opninions, im sure you know that.

Its just to show you that war have two sides {sometimes even more}. just like you are a patriot, i am a one too. that dosent mean you want to kill all the indoes, like its dont say i want to kill all the arabs.
you say pakistan is right, i say Israel is right. Now you see that im not a mindless racist evil deamon? Just like i can give you 100 stories who show bad things pakistan did, you can give me 100 strories about Israel.

So, back to Iran -
The hot topic these days on this subject: does the UN need to put some red lines to Iran, or just progress with diplomacy and Embargoes, without red lines and warnings?

 

Posted Sep 10, '12 at 5:26pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,258 posts

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The hot topic these days on this subject: does the UN need to put some red lines to Iran, or just progress with diplomacy and Embargoes, without red lines and warnings?

The Iranian leaders won't be impressed by a red line, if anything, it will confort them in their current position. Declaring an ultimatum essentially means we are going to attack Iran. I think the UN will go on with embargoes and observe how the US and Israel behave.
 

Posted Sep 10, '12 at 5:41pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,863 posts

Sorry, punisher, If i got this into private areas, i realt am. i respect your opninions, im sure you know that.

Its just to show you that war have two sides {sometimes even more}. just like you are a patriot, i am a one too. that dosent mean you want to kill all the indoes, like its dont say i want to kill all the arabs.
you say pakistan is right, i say Israel is right. Now you see that im not a mindless racist evil deamon? Just like i can give you 100 stories who show bad things pakistan did, you can give me 100 strories about Israel.

No supporting your country blindly is foolish and a sin in Islam.
I only support what we have done right.
 

Posted Sep 10, '12 at 6:06pm

superdark33

superdark33

17 posts

Just what i said to my friends about it! almost same words HahiHa! lol.
red lines will just give them the opportunity to claim that they didnt passed it. like the kid who pus hhis finger in fromt of your face and sya "i didnt touched you".

and punisher - same here. you need to hear my arguing with left wingers in Israel. in some cases, i have to confess, i even mentions things that you and nichodemus Taught and Talked with me about, to show them that Israel is not a pure good and the arabs are a barbarian tribe who want to kill us all.
Never support your country blindly, that my ideaoligy. your country cant Afford its peoples blind, it need you with open eyes. So you will know when you were wrong, and try to fix it.

 

Posted Nov 8, '12 at 8:38pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,436 posts

Hopefully this isn't too late of a revival, but the Department of Defense just disclosed that a drone was fired upon over international waters last week (here). This is considered an act of war under international law.

 
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