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Posted Aug 24, '12 at 12:55pm

Jefferysinspiration

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Well, we shared our thoughts on the "Batman" Shootings.

Chicago: lice say 13 people were shot and wounded in a 30-minute spate of violence in Chicago, including eight gunned down on a single street.

olice say a drive-by shooting on Chicago's South Side late Thursday wounded seven men and one woman ranging in age from 14 to 20 years. Two of the victims were taken to Comer Children's Hospital. Most are in stable condition. Police say the 19-year-old woman wounded was shot in the arm while walking to work.

Five people were wounded in three other shootings around the same time.

Police say 19 people were shot in Chicago on Thursday night and early Friday.


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NYC: Shots fired by a man who had been fired from his job (a year ago) - killed two people, once being his 'ex'-boss. The numbers of injured people shot may include accidental shots from the police. (Says Mayor Bloomberg in his statement). By. The. Police.

Views? Thoughts? Gun law arguments? Thoughts for the people affected?

 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 1:07pm

Jefferysinspiration

Jefferysinspiration

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Well erm, lice say nothing, but i believe the police do, sorry !

 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 1:30pm

Kalb789

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I really don't think gun laws have much to do with killings like "a guy killed his boss who just fired him". If some psycho has a specific person in their head that they want to kill, they are going to kill that person. Think about it, if you really wanted to kill someone, it would be extremely easy, gun or no gun.

 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 1:40pm

Jefferysinspiration

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I really don't think gun laws have much to do with killings like "a guy killed his boss who just fired him". If some psycho has a specific person in their head that they want to kill, they are going to kill that person. Think about it, if you really wanted to kill someone, it would be extremely easy, gun or no gun.


I hold the same opinion - If guns weren't as accessible, surely he would have grabbed a knife. But i think guns are in a different league, as it made it easier for him to injure more people. With a knife, this might not have happened.
 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 2:16pm

partydevil

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I really don't think gun laws have much to do with killings like "a guy killed his boss who just fired him".


if guns were not around everywhere then he could not just get 1.
he might have attacked him but thats noting like BOOM! HeAdShOT!!!
 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 2:17pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

Maybe you know my stance on this... where I live we have stricter gun laws and absolutely no problem..

.. but I'm almost more afflicted by how badly the police behaves recently. Heard of two cases where a person was shot to death by a ridiculous amount of shots after a conflict with the police, now this.. don't they have anger management or something?

 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 6:02pm

danielo

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sorry to tell you, you dont hear about people shooting in center of cities in Israel because they got fired/got domped/are crazy. in Israel, they do what they do in the rest of the plante, the unarmed plante. they suicide. its sound horrible, butfrom time to time you hear about a man got fired in Usa and start shooting people in rage. its even more Frustrating when the coward kill himself after it, not able to confront his deeds. i mean, god dammet! you are sad? go talk about it with someone, why killing peoples? why destroing other peoples life?
its just such an egoistic view "i feel bad so everyone need to feel bad too".

and yea hahiha, its does seems like the policemans are affraid too now, after all these shooting. but dont forget, the ystand against a man, who can suddenly reveal he have a bomb of a gun. they risk there life against a potential crazy man, like in the batman massacer.

 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 6:33pm

NoNameC68

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Knight

Despite the overwhelming number of guns in America, we're still pretty safe. When someone freaks out and kills other people, it's always going to be a shock. They're sick, twisted, individuals who will find a way to kill if they really want to. Guns don't lead people to violence, they simply provide a means of violence to the super few sick and twisted people. That being said, we can't cater to the super few, because most gun owners are not sick and twisted by any means at all.

Innocent, good, people use guns to defend themselves and their loved ones. We can not take away these guns, used for self defense, because some people are sick and twisted ********.

its sound horrible, butfrom time to time you hear about a man got fired in Usa and start shooting people in rage.


Considering the absolute redicilous size of the human population, on top of the efficiency to spread news, we're going to hear more about these crimes.

Hearing about more crime doesn't mean there actually is more crime, not statistically at least.

I don't buy the whole "it will make guns harder to obtain" argument, because most people use guns for self defense or hunting. If you want to stop gun crimes, look for solutions that don't restrict our freedoms.
 

Posted Aug 24, '12 at 6:37pm

314d1

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NYC: Shots fired by a man who had been fired from his job (a year ago) - killed two people, once being his 'ex'-boss. The numbers of injured people shot may include accidental shots from the police. (Says Mayor Bloomberg in his statement). By. The. Police.


Friendly fire is a very real threat whenever guns are used in a combat situation. If well trained, well equipped soldiers in a combat situation with few civilians can end up hitting things they do not want, then comparatively poorly trained, poorly equipped people who are basically civilians with a ton of actual civilians between them in the enemy will defiantly hit a few friendly targets. It would be stupid to think that they would not.

I hold the same opinion - If guns weren't as accessible, surely he would have grabbed a knife. But i think guns are in a different league, as it made it easier for him to injure more people. With a knife, this might not have happened.


And if someone else had a gun- and was trained well with it, he could have just been shot saving EVERYONE. He could have, just as easily, killed the same amount of people using a knife. There was an example of this in China not to long ago. I would take the chance of him getting shot and saving everyone above him getting a knife and maybe killing less people.

if guns were not around everywhere then he could not just get 1.
he might have attacked him but thats noting like BOOM! HeAdShOT!!!


Humans have been using blades and such since the very start of our civilization. We use them because they are extremely effective. Shooting into a crowd is essentially just as effective as stabbing into an unarmed crowd.

Maybe you know my stance on this... where I live we have stricter gun laws and absolutely no problem..


Where I live we have less strict gun laws and no problem. Maybe gun laws are not the problem?

.. but I'm almost more afflicted by how badly the police behaves recently. Heard of two cases where a person was shot to death by a ridiculous amount of shots after a conflict with the police, now this.. don't they have anger management or something?


Yeah! How dare they not be perfect shots? Trying to save more people but doing it somewhat poorly, for shame. After all, it is extremely easy for a poorly trained man to shoot at a small target from a distance using a hand gun, right?
 

Posted Aug 25, '12 at 5:05am

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

Yeah! How dare they not be perfect shots? Trying to save more people but doing it somewhat poorly, for shame. After all, it is extremely easy for a poorly trained man to shoot at a small target from a distance using a hand gun, right?

All I'm saying is, when a man is literally surrounded by policemen and still doesn't want to calm down (not: lay any weapons down or anything, but simply: calm down), after the police gave a few warnings, they could of simply shoot him in the legs instead of transforming him into Swiss cheese. Seriously.
 
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