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The Games that Killed Call of Duty
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Posted Sep 2, '12 at 9:32pm 1 post |
This topic is about the games that killed cod. Meaning the games that where more cooler then Cod like classics. Which games would YOU pick? Mine is the first and second max payne game from 2001-08 and The first HALO. Whats yours? |
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Posted Sep 2, '12 at 10:11pm 10,820 posts |
Games that killed CoD? I wouldn't say a franchise that sells millions every year is dead. |
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Posted Sep 2, '12 at 10:34pm 394 posts |
I don't understand. While Call of Duty is in my opinion ( keyword, opinion ) a lousy series, it still has millions of fans. So you say it's dead? I beg to differ. |
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Posted Sep 2, '12 at 11:24pm 5,000 posts |
No no...it IS a lousy series. Same game each time, and campaign mode is just terrible in each of them (you can literally just hide the entire time and have your team take out the bad guys...all you have to do is make sure to move forward every now and then) As for it being dead? Sadly...it isn't. Though it seems (keyword: seems) to be dieing (albeit, rather slowly) |
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 12:37pm 2,936 posts |
Never try and correct a sentence again. Not only was it explicitly stated as an opinion, but it also stated that it IS a lousy series. Your demeanor suggests the the person is wrong and you're stating the facts -- which on a topic subject to opinions, is impossible. . . then just add that you're repeating the same thing as our buddy bigjacob up there and . . . At most, you can berate me for failing to have that Picard Facepalm in. I've never gotten down the Images for Armor Games. :O
Get out if you're going to have that sardonic attitude to someone who didn't do anything (at all) wrong.
I'm glad you explained what "Killed" in this sense means.
Cool isn't a term I'd rather use for this. Otherwise most hack 'n' slashes take the cake on this one. . . I don't know, but a lot of games I'd rate over Call of Duty that I don't even consider good, or 'cool' in any way.
Whilst I think this pertains to the stickied Call of Duty Thread, I mays well partake as I've typed this much. These aren't what I'd consider obvious. I'd bet a lot of you haven't heard of a few of these games, and the other are more miscellaneous except perhaps League of Legends. . . although for any who's known me long enough they'd know that I'm not fond of that game either, so bringing that up may be a surprise. Those are games I'd definitely say rate higher than Call of Duty after 4, and even CoD4 was pretty poor due to its simplicity.
Not a fan of the third one? I'll take a shot and say you was influenced either by Sir Totalbiscuit or one of his many followers, at least a little in the case of Max Payne 3. That said, I wouldn't say it's a bad thing (depends which followers you're talking about).
There seems to be particular issue with reading what people are actually saying, today. I'll just refer again to the Stickied CoD Thread. This one is redundant as it doesn't instigate much conversation as this is just a "Voice your personal X" thread and no real conflict or discussion can be made unless two people find their significant other because they both enjoyed a really old game when it was first out. - H |
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 5:37pm 99 posts |
If Call of Duty were dead, it would have been killed before it started thanks to Goldeneye007. |
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 6:46pm 1,256 posts |
No game has killed CoD it's still one of the biggest gaming franchises and probably will continue to be for a long time. I think CoD is good I just find it's losing it's feel since I have played CoD since CoD4 it just feels the same old same old but every game has this if you play it enough so I can't really complain. |
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Posted Sep 4, '12 at 7:38am 41 posts |
CoD is a good series, by Halo 3 PAWNS! |
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Posted Sep 4, '12 at 7:56am 4,993 posts |
1. Call of Duty isn't dead. Nothing "killed" the game series. I am a HUGE Assassin's Creed fan. AC2, ACB, and ACR are all VERY similar. It is VERY easy to argue that the games are too similar for them to be considered good (some people do make this argument). However, many people, such as myself, enjoy the gameplay that made AC2 so awesome. The same goes for CoD. If you're tired of the CoD games because you're tired of playing "the same game", then that's a perfectly acceptable reason. (However, they aren't the same game each time, they just use the same basic game play elements). Just keep in mind who the game is aimed towards. Personally, I enjoy the Legend of Zelda games. Oh wait, they're very identical each release as well. Halo! Oh wait, Halo may have introduced a few changes, but it's nothing that' drastically different. ----- A lot of people who say they hate CoD are full of crap. I believe they don't really hate the game series as much as they let on, I believe they just hate the fact that it's so much more popular than what they believe it should be. They disliked CoD because it's over rated. If you think CoD is over rated, great, but keep in mind that over rated does not necisarily mean "crappy". For example, The Beatles are the most over rated band in the world. Yet, they're a great band and remains one of my favorites. After a certain point, I think it's more wise to allow a thread bashing a game series to live than to have everyone bring CoD fans down in the sticky thread. However, this thread is redicilous, so I'm going to do my best to destroy anyone who posts here in intellectual battle. Do you know what's more annoying than fanboys? Anti-fanboys. They're like fanboys, except they go around hating on a particular game instead of praising it. Fanboys and anti-fanboys are annoying because they confuse opinion with fact, and their hate has more to do with conformity than actual personal preference. |
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Posted Sep 4, '12 at 9:15am 2,936 posts |
Well, I appreciate that I dislike any term with "fan" involved being as it's derived from "Fanatic", it's no surprise that many 'fans' can behave like that. But attempt to destroy me, in an intellectual battle, if you want.
Again, the OP defined what he meant by "killed". Why is everyone sticking to their own definition when one has just been made specific to this thread? I mean sure, just point out that it's not dead but you got the message very clearly enough.
Except there is, in terms of CoD. Being overrated and very popular that means that it holds the reins in much of the gaming industry. When people discovered that the formula of the same thing with minor changes worked, because a demographic ate it up, spending £30 on the initial game that was as different as any content patch and then even MORE SO on DLC, it caused quakes throughout the entire industry. Oh, and it still does. How often now does the Business Model of a game come into your mind now? There's always cosmetic DLC, or subscription based fees for some things that aren't even MMORPGs anymore (however, this model is thankfully being phased out). It's damaged the industry for the consumer to a level that is unacceptable, especially given that prior to this people got on perfectly fine with just purchasing the game and any expansion packs (read: Age of Empires series before the MMORTS). Maybe if the industry started with this, it would be acceptable -- but it's degraded, and the only reason there would be "required" money (which there really isn't) would be for graphical issues. . . gameplay rarely suffers when it comes to people who know efficiency or are really good at making games.
I am not one of them. Well, not entirely full of crap, and usually not on this subject.
What's your point, here? You're making a statement against people that doesn't really do anything for anyone. I mean, I could see someone trying to reference this in a future conflict in regards to CoD and just say "Haha, you're one of them!" or something . . . in which case, it's just devolved into this pretty generic, illogical and digressed argument that ceases to have any gains.
For me, it's the result of it being the lead and what it's done as a result. Oh, and because they make a game less effectively than a few Indie Titles I've seen. Then they try practically robbing you by selling Map DLCs that contain maps from previous games -- excluding a modding system (Which was present in CoD4 and as a result its sequels should contain a good feature) to limit your ability to synthesize your own and increase the longevity of a game, and et cetera.
The issue is CoD still is crappy in either way you put it. The mechanical design isn't nearly as good as it should be -- I've expected better from, I'll say again, Indie Titles. The gameplay is just a facade, baring no depth in gameplay that you can't achieve with any other game, but going no deeper and the graphical effects mays well be non-existant for a more "Professional Gaming" feel. For anyone who has used Steam a lot, I think you know where I'm coming from when I say you could expect to buy a game with the quality of CoD for around £8-£10. Excluding on sale.
Where's the logic in that? The only thing that should be able to bring a CoD-fan down in any CoD controversey should be a valid point that undermines their 'beliefs'. Which has already been done. Aside from that there's just mindless hating that needs to be dealt with -- but that's just the same as mindless praising, it's the same idiocy and just because one is (supposedly) positive doesn't mean it should be left alone.
Except anti-fanboys tend to have a more logical mindset, and that's from both experience and the fact that angry or negative thoughts help provoke said thoughts, as ironic as that is.
Except you're just targetting people here, and not the points provided.
Not the haters. They don't conform, but some of them find the idea of "Not conforming" pretty good, for some reason. The lack of conformity and the defiance to generally accepted things shouldn't just be regarded as someone attempting to be a rebel. Oftentimes, they have good points (even if they can't express them that well). Ultimately, you've kind of just berated a fairly large portion of the Armor Games VG population with no real gains rather than saying this is a cage for everyone who wants to hate on the game which is just an exceptionally silly idea. People who like CoD will clearly steer away and people who dislike or are more tentative will give this one a shot. It's not a good idea at all and being sensitive to people's "feelings" on an online forum where there is ALWAYS debate (that was once being hammered down upon by myself and ChillzMaster, that was the most brutal time) sounds like an almost puny attempt to just shy away from just having any form of constructive discussion. Also, for Assassin's Creed. I couldn't play more than what? 5 Missions of it? It was the same formula throughout the game except they'd change the "Pickpocket" segment of one with an "Eavesdrop" segment for the other. Very monotonous, and thus I stopped looking into it in terms of future Assassin's Creed games which I'd imagine follow a pretty similar thing considering the Assassin looks the same, usually baring a familiar arsenal of weapons. Oh, and philosophies about being cost-efficient with money when it comes to games. Countless times I'm asked "Why don't you get X?" and I wouldn't have any objection directly towards a specific game (Deus Ex: Human Revolution or Minecraft) but I would say that I've already got enough. . . I mean, I really have, and most people do too. But I don't need nearly any of them. Granted, a few of them were obtained years ago and my Starcraft 1 Purhcase was more of a "Paying towards the eSport" than trying to get any entertainment, but either way, there's really only a need for a PC gamer to have 2 games if they can get into them and they can take that kind of time (However if you get Skyrim and Deus Ex, don't try and last with just them, ahaha). Cost efficient with CoD would be having just one, and even then, I question that. You don't necessarily need to buy it to know whether it'd be good or not - it's quite easy to (accurately) judge games based on the gameplay you've seen or heard of, though it's always best done watching it of course. Seeing the blandness of CoD and almost certainly the amount of "Imbalanced" or as some will call "Gay" things on there could be enough to just put you off. - H |









