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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 11:14am

partydevil
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thx nicho, i wouldn't be able to stay calm whit such american.
your hitting my mark perfectly =)
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 11:40am

314d1
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My country? Its a great place. The people are nice and helpful, the land is pretty, and there is plenty of room for everybody.
The flaws that I have noticed are mostly in the world I live in, the world of the youth, and mostly minor problems. Drug use is rampant, mostly "minor" drugs like alcohol, marijuana, and "normal" smoking, to the point where there is a group of at least ten teenagers smoking in the parking lot after school (Not technically school grounds, of course.) There are also minor spouts of violence, both randomly and semi-organized. I have seen several fights, been part of a few, but they are usually just a few punches before someone is restrained and no one has been actually injured in one. While there is semi-organized fighting, from what I hear of it it is mostly friendly fighting, where no one is injured. Crime is low, it is mostly morons doing stupid things. I know two people who have committed armed robbery in high school, both where caught easily. One robbed a liquor store, so I am told, and he was a volunteer fireman and an acquaintance of mine from boyscouts, and I am not sure if he was armed or not. From what I hear he was caught walking down the street drinking the liquor. The other robbed a gas station with a black-painted air soft gun (At least he wore a mask. A scream mask) and was caught easily. Both of those people where pretty nice guys, and I knew them a little bit, one was a former boy scout in my troop and the other had a locker two lockers down from me. The only way anyone knew about the first was asking (Hey, what happened to that guy?) and everyone is surprised when they hear it, the other was a rumor around school when it happened. The girls all thought "Really? I thought he was too nice for that" while the boys thought "Really? I didn't think he had the balls for it.". Both assume that both where probably on drugs.
But really, I love it here. The only problems I can name have never effected me, the only crimes we have in Montana are usually under the effects of alcohol, and the land is great. I have not been to the rest of America in a while, but I assume the rest is similar in a ton of ways?
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 11:45am

nichodemus
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But really, I love it here. The only problems I can name have never effected me, the only crimes we have in Montana are usually under the effects of alcohol, and the land is great. I have not been to the rest of America in a while, but I assume the rest is similar in a ton of ways?
Not in the ghettos no.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 11:53am

314d1
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Not in the ghettos no.
You may not realize this, but "Everywhere that is not a ghetto" is a pretty big place, so I would say we are doing pretty good. I don't think we even have ghettos in Montana, not since WWII, and those where "Interment Camps" where we kept Italians who ended up liking it so much here many of them stayed. I am not sure that counts, though.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 12:30pm

nichodemus
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Not in the ghettos no.
You may not realize this, but "Everywhere that is not a ghetto" is a pretty big place, so I would say we are doing pretty good. I don't think we even have ghettos in Montana, not since WWII, and those where "Interment Camps" where we kept Italians who ended up liking it so much here many of them stayed. I am not sure that counts, though.
You might not recall your phrasing of "the rest" being extremely absolute.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 12:34pm

314d1
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You might not recall your phrasing of "the rest" being extremely absolute.
It is rather had to make a large generalization, especially when we are not only talking about countries and states, but apparently cities, and not just cities but small parts of cities. Excuse me for not taking a little bit of a little bit of a little bit into account.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 12:45pm

nichodemus
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It is rather had to make a large generalization, especially when we are not only talking about countries and states, but apparently cities, and not just cities but small parts of cities. Excuse me for not taking a little bit of a little bit of a little bit into account.
Traditional black inner-city ghettos are thinning out and changing, drawing in impoverished Hispanic people, who have low-wage jobs or are unemployed. Neighborhoods with poverty rates of at least 40% are stretching over broader areas, increasing in suburbs at twice the rate of cities.
After declining during the 1990s economic boom, the proportion of poor people in large metropolitan areas who lived in high-poverty neighborhoods jumped from 11.2% in 2000 to 15.1% last year, according to a Brookings Institution analysis released Thursday. Such geographically concentrated poverty in the US is now at the highest since 1990, following a decade of high unemployment and rising energy costs.
Extreme poverty today continues to be prevalent in the industrial midwest, including Michigan cities Detroit and Grand Rapids, and Akron, Ohio, because of a renewed decline in manufacturing. But the biggest growth in high-poverty areas is occurring in newer Sun Belt metro areas such as Las Vegas, Riverside, California, and Cape Coral, Florida, after the plummeting housing market wiped out home values and dried up construction jobs.
7% of African Americans live in ghettos today and it's not counting other races. It's not a tiny tiny group as you put it.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 12:54pm

314d1
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It's not a tiny tiny group as you put it.
Yeah, it really is.
12.6% (39,600,414 people) Of America is black. If 7% live in ghettos, that makes 2,772,028.98 people. Excuse me if I am ignoring an extremely small part of the country while making generalizations.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 12:58pm

nichodemus
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Yeah, it really is.
12.6% (39,600,414 people) Of America is black. If 7% live in ghettos, that makes 2,772,028.98 people. Excuse me if I am ignoring an extremely small part of the country while making generalizations.
2 million is not "tiny" it's the population of many countries. Not to mention that this is just one race, and that ghetto population is on the rise.
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Posted Sep 3, '12 at 1:03pm

314d1
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2 million is not "tiny" it's the population of many countries. Not to mention that this is just one race, and that ghetto population is on the rise.
It is 7% of 12.6%, and if my math is right that makes .882%, correct? I, personally, consider less then one percent of something, even if it is on the rise, a small minority.
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