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Big Brother: Coming Soon To Airspace Near You
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Posted Sep 6, '12 at 11:24pm 467 posts |
According to a number of articles (listed at end of post), the combat and surveillance drones being used overseas to hunt and kill terrorists will be coming to watch you as soon as 2014-15. [I apologize in advance if these links fail.] http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/06/ … lp-police/ http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/13 … s-20120214 http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/c … -us-cities http://consumertravelalliance.org/2012/ … eady-here/ http://sreaves32.wordpress.com/2012/05/ … u-by-2015/ And more articles here: _____ But, this surveillance **** seems to go too far. I know just about anyone can become a criminal, but it ain't fair for those that are willing to overcome that temptation. But we don't have to worry about that, because no American politician would go out of his way to harm his country if it means he'll lose his place in office! I know nothing about politics though, so I'll be quiet now. =) I agree that flying devices could be used in a beneficial way in the cities; for example I already heard ideas about minidrones/quadcopter thingies for the firefighters that could move around on it's own and provide better overview. But as with everything, misuse is not far, and using drones in public without preexisting reason other than prevention doens't sound great. *cough* PATRIOT ACT *cough* This new program will give the government the ability to watch 24/7 any person who they deem to be a threat to their power They already do that. There's cameras on nearly every street corner in big cities. You really think they're just watching the cars for speeders? To be fair, most people actually supported it in the wake of 9/11. Okay, this should have it right now. |
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Posted Sep 7, '12 at 12:24am 1,929 posts |
*facepalm* another conspiracy theory. People really expect the worst out of the government, don't they? The government's not going to use this as a means of eliminating anyone who tries to stand up to them. We have one of the largest and most advanced militaries in the world, if they really wanted that, we would have a country where every corner was occupied by soldiers. The only organization I see killing people for disagreeing are these crackpot conspiracy groups, religious zealots, and violent "protesters" who are too stupid to understand what they're actually protesting. |
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Posted Sep 7, '12 at 1:59am 467 posts |
You would know, flame-baiter.
Wrong. The World Trade Center towers were destroyed by hateful scum that hides behind a religious facade and has by its own actions descended to a level lower than the basest human. Such "people" are a disgrace and shame to the species and must be eliminated. That's what the drones oversees are being used for now.
Only because of bitter experience. The government used to be the "good guy" in the eyes of the American people. It stayed in Washington and out of people's lives. When the government asked for or declared something, the majority of people did their best to help because they knew that they would benefit by it. But that's changed in the past few decades. The government has been steadily getting bigger, and our Rights and Freedoms have been eroded and encroached upon at the same or greater rate. Now, the government has cameras watching you constantly and satellites and antennas collecting and scanning your every phone call or email. They constantly pass new laws that seek to further limit what we can do and how we can do it. They raise the taxes so we have no money, then promote a graduated form of slavery by making people dependent on Welfare and other programs. So when it comes out that they're bringing spy drones that carry missiles capable of leveling buildings to American airspace, people naturally wonder if it's going to be them in the crosshairs, and with good reason. After all, history is fond of repeating itself, and it was the self-same disillusionment with an ever-expanding and controlling government that led to the American Revolution against the British. I don't doubt that there are government officials that lay awake nights wondering if their next move is going to put the American public so far over the edge that they rebel. As it was so aptly put by Thomas Jefferson, "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants," and today's government is rapidly approaching the point where it will openly be called tyrannical.
I'm sure there's people in the government who would like that. The reason they can't get away with that is because America has an all-volunteer military comprised entirely of citizen soldiers. If the government gave an order to that effect, they would probably look out the window and see most of those soldiers outside getting ready to storm the place. American soldiers are sworn to obey lawful orders, and to defend the country from "all threats, foreign and domestic." Such an order would not only be unlawful, but would also mark the person who issued the order as a domestic threat due to such a blatant violation of American Rights and the checks and balances present (at least nominally) within the governments' structure.
You'd better back this up with some proof. The "crackpot conspiracy groups" you refer to generally put out information and their beliefs regarding it, not go out and kill people. The "violent protesters," while admittedly loudmouthed and in some cases aggressive, are few, and rarely incur fatalities; death is more likely as a result of a riot following a sports event. And the only "religious zealots" I see killing people are the Islamic terrorists that are currently being hunted and killed themselves. Even the so-called "extreme right-wing militant groups" that get hyped out of proportion don't go out on killing sprees; those are the work of deranged psychopaths like James Holmes. |
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Posted Sep 7, '12 at 5:18am 10,792 posts |
Please do NOT insult welfare. If it were not for the government doling out help, quite a few people would be far worst off. It's only people who are relatively comfortable with the situation that criticize it. It's NOT base slavery, it does NOT reduce people to being slaves, it HELPS those who are in desperate times. People who struggle to feed kids, to get medical care or to provide for their children.
My dad used to be in the Air Force for two decades. Not America, but a similar nation. They obey, they don't subvert, because it's their job, their sole livelihood. Don't want taxes? Dont get Public schools, law enforcement, defense, protection, roads, highways, your streetlamps, anti trust laws against monopolies, justice system amongst others. Obama already extended tax cuts; |
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Posted Sep 7, '12 at 3:19pm 1,588 posts |
Please, tell me some of these freedoms that have been taken? Yes, the PATRIOT Act, however that was supported by most people. Name one freedom that was not "taken" without majority of support of the people? Also, you're a tad paranoid, don't you think? Claiming that the government is reading all of my emails and listening into all of my phone calls? Looks like someone should put their tin foil helmet back on. |
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Posted Sep 7, '12 at 5:00pm 4,224 posts |
They usually don't without reason, but they do have access to such information. |
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Posted Sep 7, '12 at 10:17pm 10,792 posts |
I would rather feel safe at night knowing the government can monitor suspected terrorists at th expense of knowing which Internet sites I visit rather than regret after something major occurs again. |
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Posted Sep 9, '12 at 4:23am 5,000 posts |
Remember SOPA and PIPA? Had it not been for the overwhelming reaction of teh interwebs, they would have been more than likely passed. And for a while...quite a number of ignorant people thought that those acts were good things |
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Posted Sep 9, '12 at 6:31am 1,756 posts |
I genuinely hope that when predator drones come in local use, some angry drone operator |
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Posted Sep 9, '12 at 6:45am 1,631 posts |
You won't have to endure the drones for long, Americans. Oil is soon to run out, and those drones are not needed, thus the military will stop using them. |







