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Posted Sep 8, '12 at 12:02am

Omnihero10

Omnihero10

314 posts

Ive been thinking a lot, developing some questions like:

What is Reality?
What is experience?
How are we here?
Why us?

I was wondering if i could get a group of intelligent people to help answer and validate these questions.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 12:22am

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

What is Reality?

All of Existence, another word that is randomly capitalized.

What is experience?

Think of your brain as a computer. "Experience" would be like the things you download on the computer.

How are we here?

What do you mean by that? Abiogenisis caused simple life to exist, which evolved over millions of years to become humans. Is that what you meant?

Why us?

...Eh?

I was wondering if i could get a group of intelligent people to help answer and validate these questions.

Validate questions?

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 1:15am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,633 posts

Philosophy is a waste of time. You'll spend too much time thinking, always coming back to the same thing, never getting any practical work done. Imagine of the world's armies just stopped and thought for ages? They'd come to the conclusion war is pointless, but with that their paycheck goes out the window.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 1:19am

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

Philosophy is a waste of time. You'll spend too much time thinking, always coming back to the same thing, never getting any practical work done. Imagine of the world's armies just stopped and thought for ages? They'd come to the conclusion war is pointless, but with that their paycheck goes out the window.

War? Pointless? Hahaha, you had me there for a second. I thought you where serious. War is one of the most effective political tools ever on the face of the planet. Whenever you want something, be it just or unjust, and another country wants something else, be it just or unjust, war is the most effective means to get the desired result. It is hardly pointless when, every time it has been used, it has served it's purpose: Either securing what the offensive country wanted or keeping the interests of the defensive country. Why in hell would you say war is pointless?

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 1:38am

Omnihero10

Omnihero10

314 posts

@314d1
you have to think, i mean really think, almost past understanding.

think of this:

If reality is existance, that what is existance? Think of the scale of existance, if i precieve my reality, and you interpret your own, And if everyone is different? that can there be a large single reality? if everyone has a different view on things than is there a single view? To include the other aliens, they may see sound waves. Their reality is completely different then ours, there biochemestry set up may cause theirs brains to function at a COMPLETELY different level. How can there be a single reality?

@MasterForger

Trollfail. People are different in there own ways,people who go to war dont think about the true questions, if you notice, or use 9th grade history, there were three great Philophsers,  Pericles, Plato and Aristotle. There wernt armies of thinkers, the spartans made sure of that.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 1:44am

Kasic

Kasic

5,566 posts

How can there be a single reality?

It's reality because it exists. Regardless of whether something perceives parts of it or experiences it differently. Reality does not change between people or things.

people who go to war dont think about the true questions,

I think it's a bit arrogant of you to say that soldiers don't think on life questions. They probably do more so than the average person, but they are also unable to change anything.

Philosophy is amusing to think about in your spare time and can be insightful at points, but it really is, for the most part, unnecessary.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 1:49am

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

you have to think, i mean really think, almost past understanding.

So your reason for capitalization is beyond human reason? I don't buy it. You are just capitalizing words at random.

If reality is existance, that what is existance?

Its existence. The universe, and everything outside if it. The things that we can observe, givin infinite time and proper equipment.

Think of the scale of existance, if i precieve my reality, and you interpret your own, And if everyone is different? that can there be a large single reality?

I can't understand what you are saying. Since you appear to be a native English speaker, I will have to assume that you are either high or young, which will excuse your insane philosophical ideas.

What you observe does not have anything to do with your reality. Weather you are hyper sensitive or in a comma, you are in the same reality. The rest of the universe doesn't just not exist because you, a random human, doesn't see it. Perception is only what you see, not what is actually there. Reality is what is actually there, not what you perceive, if that is what you are getting at.

A good example of this would be schizophrenics, who have a different perception of reality, seeing, hearing, smelling, or generally sensing things that are not there. While their perception is different, the fact that their visions do not exist does not change reality.

To include the other aliens, they may see sound waves. Their reality is completely different then ours, there biochemestry set up may cause theirs brains to function at a COMPLETELY different level

No it isn't, and I don't see how you make a connection. As I said, reality isn't what you see, it is what is there. A bullet kills you, weather you see it or not.

How can there be a single reality?

You still have not stated why there would be multiple realities.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 2:00am

Kasic

Kasic

5,566 posts

You are just capitalizing words at random.

He's capitalizing terms improperly. This has to do with the subject...how?

No it isn't, and I don't see how you make a connection. As I said, reality isn't what you see, it is what is there. A bullet kills you, weather you see it or not.

To expand on this, a second before a blind man runs into a wall it doesn't just randomly pop into existence the next. Your statements that they might "see sound waves" which is vague to say the least, is the same as saying that the blind man lives in another reality because he can't perceive it in a way others can.

Or if you prefer, bacon is still bacon even if you have no taste buds.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 2:15am

Omnihero10

Omnihero10

314 posts

So your reason for capitalization is beyond human reason? I don't buy it. You are just capitalizing words at random.

You seem to fixate on my mis-captilization? Intersting...

Its existence. The universe, and everything outside if it. The things that we can observe, givin infinite time and proper equipment

Well, Existance cant be defined by itself. example think of yourself as a 2nd grader and confused about science, so you google exactly what water is and you find this:

Water(wa-ter)(noun): Water (definiation)

And there isnt anything outside the Universe, there cant be. If everything is the universe, then if it wernt in the universe, it couldnt be. Remember, if it can be Observed, or recorded, it cant exist. and since we cant exist out side reality AkA the universe, then there cant be anything out there.

I can't understand what you are saying. Since you appear to be a native English speaker, I will have to assume that you are either high or young, which will excuse your insane philosophical ideas.

Yes i am young, 14 with it IQ of 155 and the mental capaticity of Eienstine.

You still have not stated why there would be multiple realities

I didnt say that, i hinted at it but think of this:

if you put a cat in a box, with a number generator and a silent bomb that relesed arsinic into the box. how would you know it existed? East right, just look inside the box, for you, the cat was in a state of both dead and alive, until varified. But If I think there for I am, correct? then the cat thinks, there for it is. But you didnt now that, so for your reality, it wasnt dead nor alive, but for it, it was alive, and the rest of the world was gone.
(Iover did it with the commas, Im sorry)

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 2:16am

Kasic

Kasic

5,566 posts

I am not sure what is going on, he is speaking English in a way no one understands.

It seems pretty obvious to me what he's saying, even if it is fallacious/naive. What aren't you understanding?

So why not state that he is capitalizing random words, when I don't know what else to say?

You could have asked straight out what he was trying to say.

Maybe I'm wrong, but he wants to discuss general philosophy topics such as life/death/reality/will/purpose. He then gave some random thoughts about one of them and here we are 9 posts later.

 
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