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Posted Sep 22, '12 at 3:37pm

_Spaz_

_Spaz_

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I really do not think people understand what Anarchism is. I am an Anarchist myself and it is saddening to hear that people think that Anarchy is "Chaos" and "Disorder" when in reality it is the opposite. I think people have grown so attached to their governments that they depend on them to run their lives and without it there will be chaos. That's just chaos, not Anarchy. Anarchy is peace and order. Government is violence. Anyone care to add to this?
*If you are going to argue this please do not state the fact that it can not work. That is a lame argument and needs to be backed up with evidence and proof.
Thanks

 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 3:46pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Well then, what is anarchism in detail, for you? How do you imagine it to work and result in peace and order?

Here's what wiki has to offer:
"Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful, or, alternatively, as opposing authority or hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations. Proponents of anarchism, known as "anarchists", advocate stateless societies based on non-hierarchical voluntary associations."

 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 4:17pm

_Spaz_

_Spaz_

145 posts

Yes, that is correct. I wouldn't consider it a &quotolitical" philosophy but more of a lifestyle. To me? To start, I believe in the school of thought of Anarchism called "Anarcho-Communism" If you would like to know what it is in further detail here is a link.

http://libcom.org/thought/anarchist-communism-an-introduction

Sadly, Anarchy will not happen over night. It will not be voted in or anything like that. I believe that the people will start to be fed up with their governments and eventually turn to Anarchism, maybe without even knowing it! Violence will happen in this process, because the government will obviously try and stop a "revolution" from happening. Those months or years will be violent. Like I said, this will gradually happen over time.

To me this is main points that should happen if Anarchism (communism) should happen:

-No wage labor: You work according to your needs
-No currency ^
-No power, no class, everyone is equal

 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 4:23pm

_Spaz_

_Spaz_

145 posts

If I missed something or didn't explain something right. That link will clear everything up for it explains it better than me :P If you are not interested in reading about it, it is still cool to know what it is. Worth the read.

 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 7:41pm

Alpha791

Alpha791

4,230 posts

-No wage labor: You work according to your needs
-No currency ^
-No power, no class, everyone is equal


Um... Civilization runs on these three principals. Otherwise we're just like a pack of feral dogs.
 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 8:03pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,759 posts

-No wage labor: You work according to your needs
-No currency ^
-No power, no class, everyone is equal


So...communism, but without money..

As for Anarchy happening...it most likely will not. It is human nature to create structure and order. Take away class and you take away that structure
 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 8:13pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

So...communism, but without money..


Communism has a government that regulates its people. Anarchist societies don't have a government.
 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 9:03pm

_Spaz_

_Spaz_

145 posts

Ok, first:

Alpha: No, Society does not need currency, Have you thought other alternatives before you posted your first principle? No People create class. If you can create something you can take away. If you take away something that divides people then there is no class. If you say wage labor is OK then you support slavery because that is what Capitalism is. It exploits the human being.

 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 9:05pm

_Spaz_

_Spaz_

145 posts

Second,

Pangton: Government creates class and structure which is ran by people who want power. If you live in a society where majority people love their freedom how will government take place? (My thought).

 

Posted Sep 22, '12 at 9:09pm

_Spaz_

_Spaz_

145 posts

Lastly,

Salvidian: I hope you are not referring to today's "Communist's" which in no is marxist communism. True communism is government, correct, but is ran by the people. There are no higher ups. Everyone is equal. That is where Anarcho-communism gets its roots from. Its not saying there will be governemnt, its saying that there are no presidents or congress etc. And I have to add, Anarcho-communism deals with the work place and economy more than anything.

*From my assumption, none of you read the article in the link, because they answer all these questions

 
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