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Posted Oct 8, '12 at 5:52pm

partydevil

partydevil

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That's not gonna happen. They'll call you the devil.


then they are close minded and not worth my time on the topic.

Because we're the only animals that have the brain capacity to.

sure there are other animals who could.
a elephant, ape or dolphin maybe.

and isn't the base for todays religions a book?
a book isn't natural. they are man made.
wood and inkt are, but a book isn't.

The Greeks and Romans believed the stars were gods.

oke.
1. they are not caveman
2. they are outdated for todays standards.

This developed into more advanced religions.

not sure. i think polytheism gives more freedom for people whitin the same relgion to have more different views on something.
where monotheism is more black and white.
(not sure i got it right how ive put it here)
 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 5:58pm

partydevil

partydevil

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@kasic
thx for the info.

but about you example.
if someone agrees whit stage 5 and 6. but not whit stage 2 and 3. what stage is he in?

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 7:01pm

Kasic

Kasic

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if someone agrees whit stage 5 and 6. but not whit stage 2 and 3. what stage is he in?


It depends on the situation/example. I personally view it as parts of a whole. Yes, we all obey the law because if we don't we'll be punished. But, those who are in further stages don't break the law also for additional, more important reasons.

So while you may not agree that obeying something to not be punished is right (and it would depend on the context) it is a part of the law. That's why we may have laws we disagree with, and that's where civil disobedience comes into play. Knowingly breaking the law in a non-harmful way in order to showcase how it is unjust, accepting the punishment because law still has to be upheld, while arguing why it needs to be changed. Just one example.

Nothing is just one part :P

We're getting a little off track though.

That's not gonna happen.


Sure it will. And they do. However, you can have a logical thought process which leads to an incorrect result, or have flawed premises. People think, and they do what makes sense to them. What needs to be looked at is the basic, underlying ideas. You can't argue with someone about God on why he doesn't exist when they can't look at any perspective aside from their own.

The Greeks and Romans believed the stars were gods. This developed into more advanced religions.


We can also see religion mixing into science. Eventually 99% of heavy religion will die out, because we'll have the answers then and all the proof anyone wants for them. Only those who simply will not accept otherwise, the radicals and those uneducated will stick to what we think of religion as now. I'm not saying in the future people won't believe there's some sort of god (unless we somehow manage to prove one way or the other) but I doubt there will be formal, large groups like we see in Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and others.
 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 10:14pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

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Knight

if so then how come humans are the only animal on this earth that worships something unknown?


The human brain is differently structured than any other species on the planet. The attributes of the way our brains work can by nature lead us to believing things that aren't true.
It's similar to how this pigeon is conditioned, except we do it to ourselves.
Operant conditioning

That's not gonna happen. They'll call you the devil. (No pun intended)


This can get into a reason some atheists apply the tactic of riling a Christian up. Get that person to want to prove this atheist wrong. Which gets that person to examine their own beliefs. It's not a tactic that should always be used but it can be effective.
 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 10:34pm

EmperorPalpatine

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However, you can have a logical thought process which leads to an incorrect result, or have flawed premises.

My favorite example.
Which gets that person to examine their own beliefs.

Unfortunately, that rarely works with the heavily indoctrinated, and they tend to be the dangerous ones.
 

Posted Oct 9, '12 at 12:37am

nichodemus

nichodemus

13,242 posts

Knight

Because it's the Internet, and we're all entitled to be master twat debaters on it.

 

Posted Oct 9, '12 at 7:26am

betep39

betep39

3 posts

I'm right, you're wrong.
It says so right here in my book, which, of course is the right book.

/Private religion
//If you join, I'll have to quit.

 

Posted Oct 9, '12 at 7:56am

partydevil

partydevil

5,120 posts

It says so right here in my book, which, of course is the right book.


yea it's a very good book.
 

Posted Jan 3, '13 at 11:44am

MrDayCee

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