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Obama, Please Don't Authorize My Assassination

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 5:36pm

EnigmaX

EnigmaX

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Everybody knows about the drone strikes, and it seems nobody cares about it. And it doesn't make it less wrong, just because some selfish people don't care.

And why should any American care? Those targeted are enemies of the US. Thus, if the end is the elimination of America's enemies, then the means are justified provided they achieve that end. As the later states, if that involves a Predator loaded for bear, then make sure you don't associate with the wrong individuals, lest you end up on the business end.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 5:45pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,858 posts

And why should any American care? Those targeted are enemies of the US. Thus, if the end is the elimination of America's enemies, then the means are justified provided they achieve that end. As the later states, if that involves a Predator loaded for bear, then make sure you don't associate with the wrong individuals, lest you end up on the business end.

Enigma, to be honest, people like you can't learn unless they themselves become a victim.
These kind of actions create more and more enemies for America.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 6:15pm

EnigmaX

EnigmaX

100 posts

Enigma, to be honest, people like you can't learn unless they themselves become a victim.
These kind of actions create more and more enemies for America.

I have no reason to fear becoming a victim, if a would-be aggressor knows that American retaliation would be swift in bringing down the rotten edifice oF his delusional reality. To paraphrase Machiavelli: There can be hate, as long as there is fear.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 6:22pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,858 posts

I have no reason to fear becoming a victim, if a would-be aggressor knows that American retaliation would be swift in bringing down the rotten edifice oF his delusional reality. To paraphrase Machiavelli: There can be hate, as long as there is fear

There is difference b/w saying and doing.
The mentality you show is called jingoism.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 6:29pm

AatosLiukkonen

AatosLiukkonen

67 posts

It's better than sending 25 Navy SEALs in after every single one of them, no?

Drones have a much higher proportion of success than the media would like you to believe. There are a few mistakes, sure, but the benefits outweigh the risks. We don't target Abib the Bomb Builder, we target Ali the WTC plotter. The government doesn't much give a **** about low level guys, hence, we don't target them directly.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 6:56pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,858 posts

It's better than sending 25 Navy SEALs in after every single one of them, no?

Drones have a much higher proportion of success than the media would like you to believe. There are a few mistakes, sure, but the benefits outweigh the risks. We don't target Abib the Bomb Builder, we target Ali the WTC plotter. The government doesn't much give a **** about low level guys, hence, we don't target them directly.

What about civilian causalities?

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 7:06pm

EnigmaX

EnigmaX

100 posts

There is difference b/w saying and doing.
The mentality you show is called jingoism.

Indeed they do; the deaths of Osama bin Laden, Anwat al-Aulaqi, Mohhamed Atef, as well as the capture of other high profile individuals like Khaled Shek Mohhamed. As Teddy Roosevelt said, speak softly and carry a big stick. Governing the most powerful nation in the history of the world isnt a popularity contest. You have nothing to fear if thw wannabe haters will only get two in the chest and one in the head for their trouble.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 7:08pm

Moe

Moe

1,780 posts

What about civilian causalities?

What about them?  The people these drones are targeting are specifically targeting civilians.  Is it right for them to do that but wrong for us to accidentally hit civilians?

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 7:09pm

AatosLiukkonen

AatosLiukkonen

67 posts

What about civilian causalities?

There are always civilian casualties. It's the nature of war.

We already do a pretty good job of preventing them. Intel isn't always perfect, but 90% of the time, it is. It's either that or wait for them to kill us. Is the most efficient war not the best war? We limit civilian casualties, and the bad guys have nowhere to run or hide.

 

Posted Oct 8, '12 at 7:09pm

EnigmaX

EnigmaX

100 posts

What about civilian causalities?

Martyrs in the cause of defending American liberties. Dulce et decorum est tibi patria mori.

 
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