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thepunisher93
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This is a letter written by an american to Obama.
What are your thoughts about it?

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EnigmaX
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There is difference b/w saying and doing.
The mentality you show is called jingoism.


Indeed they do; the deaths of Osama bin Laden, Anwat al-Aulaqi, Mohhamed Atef, as well as the capture of other high profile individuals like Khaled Shek Mohhamed. As Teddy Roosevelt said, speak softly and carry a big stick. Governing the most powerful nation in the history of the world isnt a popularity contest. You have nothing to fear if thw wannabe haters will only get two in the chest and one in the head for their trouble.
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What about civilian causalities?


What about them? The people these drones are targeting are specifically targeting civilians. Is it right for them to do that but wrong for us to accidentally hit civilians?
AatosLiukkonen
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What about civilian causalities?


There are always civilian casualties. It's the nature of war.

We already do a pretty good job of preventing them. Intel isn't always perfect, but 90% of the time, it is. It's either that or wait for them to kill us. Is the most efficient war not the best war? We limit civilian casualties, and the bad guys have nowhere to run or hide.
EnigmaX
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What about civilian causalities?


Martyrs in the cause of defending American liberties. Dulce et decorum est tibi patria mori.
thepunisher93
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What about them? The people these drones are targeting are specifically targeting civilians. Is it right for them to do that but wrong for us to accidentally hit civilians?

Do two wrongs make a right?
Also civilian causalities are free recruitment ad for taliban and etc.
ndeed they do; the deaths of Osama bin Laden, Anwat al-Aulaqi, Mohhamed Atef, as well as the capture of other high profile individuals like Khaled Shek Mohhamed. As Teddy Roosevelt said, speak softly and carry a big stick. Governing the most powerful nation in the history of the world isnt a popularity contest. You have nothing to fear if thw wannabe haters will only get two in the chest and one in the head for their trouble.

What if a non hater turns into a hater thanks to the pulled by you govrn. and comes for blood?
He will not have any sense of self preservation left in him.
Basically these attacks are making more and more people angry towards USA.
EnigmaX
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What if a non hater turns into a hater thanks to the pulled by you govrn. and comes for blood?
He will not have any sense of self preservation left in him.
Basically these attacks are making more and more people angry towards USA.


What about the numberless majority who are swayed into silence by the display of sheer firepower? And as for the few individuals who are incited to action, they too will receive an express ticket to the afterlife, paid for by Uncle Sam.
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What about the numberless majority who are swayed into silence by the display of sheer firepower? And as for the few individuals who are incited to action, they too will receive an express ticket to the afterlife, paid for by Uncle Sam.

So you are saying that civilians are fair game?
EnigmaX
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So you are saying that civilians are fair game?


Enemies of the US are fair game.
thepunisher93
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Enemies of the US are fair game.

and what about civilians?
EnigmaX
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and what about civilians?


They are not civilians if they are enemies of the US; they are combatants, and are to be exterminated like rats or fleas.
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They are not civilians if they are enemies of the US; they are combatants, and are to be exterminated like rats or fleas.

You are making no sense at all.
I am talking about civilians not combatants, I know the difference.
AatosLiukkonen
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and what about civilians?


They are still the vast minority killed by drones and by other means.

Mistakes happen, get over it. The drone program is highly effective, there is no denial to that end. We could just do Dresden or Tokyo style carpet bombings, and kill everyone. Would that be preferable to a directed Hellfire missile?
EnigmaX
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I am talking about civilians not combatants, I know the difference.


Civilians have been killed in war since the first cavemen started chucking rocks at each other. To expect that to suddenly change is ridiculous. And to quote John Adams, "The Tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of patriots." Those few civilians that die along with the terrorists are martyrs in the cause of spreading American liberty around the globe. The people of Iraq and Afghanistan no longer live under the thumb of dictators and religious lunatics because of American power projection.
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They are still the vast minority killed by drones and by other means.

Mistakes happen, get over it. The drone program is highly effective, there is no denial to that end. We could just do Dresden or Tokyo style carpet bombings, and kill everyone. Would that be preferable to a directed Hellfire missile?

Civilians have been killed in war since the first cavemen started chucking rocks at each other. To expect that to suddenly change is ridiculous. And to quote John Adams, "The Tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of patriots." Those few civilians that die along with the terrorists are martyrs in the cause of spreading American liberty around the globe. The people of Iraq and Afghanistan no longer live under the thumb of dictators and religious lunatics because of American power projection.

You americans can only be reasoned with violence.
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You americans can only be reasoned with violence.


Please don't generalize like that. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if I said, "You Pakistani can only be reasoned with violence." and would undoubtedly argue that you're not all like that.

Take note that you're arguing with people who have already come up with a stance that "It's America's business and we can do whatever we want" should already show you that you're not dealing with the average person.

Provide more information please.
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