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Posted Oct 22, '12 at 2:01pm

deathbewithyou

deathbewithyou

586 posts

Lance Armstrong once considered the greatest cyclist in the world, now condemned because of accusations of using drugs to win his races. The FBI came to investigate Armstrong and questioned many of the witnesses. However, These witnesses' testimonies were considered unreliable by the FBI and because all of Armstrongs drug test came out positive, the FBI decided that he was innocent.
Another group decided to investigate Armstrong and they began using the testimonies of the witnesses whom the FBI already considered unreliable. Because of this Armstrong is considered a liar and a cheat even though he has already taken hundreds of drug tests. UCL has agreed that Armstrong should be stripped of his titles.

Lance Armstrong is famous for having won several awards on the "Tour De France" and raises money to help stop cancer. Lance Armstrong will be stripped of his titles and will be considered a lyer and a cheat.

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 2:18pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,934 posts

Knight

He got what he deserved. The investigations found a whole network that made him capable of avoiding or passing tests, he pressed the members of his own team to also use drugs, and I don't see why they would speak against him and thus reveal their own cheat, if he didn't take any drugs himself. They got enough testimonies and evidence, I think, to ridicule the evaluation of the FBI. Besides, he's by far not the only one using drugs, the whole Tour de France is a drug nest and corruption makes it possible; actually, I think they should continute the investigation among the organisators and find out how this didn't happen earlier.

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 3:51pm

xerox

xerox

308 posts

I really hate how peoples always believe the one who lie, and the one saying the truth are considered liars. the truth is that no one says the truth. You cant believe anyone anywhere.

He did not use drugs. It's a conspiracy! I bet that the group that investigated were send just to prove everyone that he uses drugs, after FBI proved he is innocent. Mostly because we do not believe in the government, and this serves as an opportunity for control.

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 4:00pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,087 posts

it shows again how easily we all can be fooled.

anyway, he wasn't my cycling hero. so i don't care much about it really. it sucks for the whole cycling world that something like this happens again and again. it doesn't make the sport more appealing.
but on the other hand did i hear somewhere that 80 to 90% of them use "steroids" so i guess it's a even game in the end after all.

oh well...

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 4:19pm

redslaughterer

redslaughterer

210 posts

I'm not a big cycling fan, but I have heard of Lance Armstrong. I agree with Hahiha, he should not have use drugs in the first place. Actually, I think it was blood-doping or something. He should have done his races fair, without the use of steroids. Though he did some good work with the foundation he created for a disease. I don't know it off the top of my head. In the end, I think he wasn't a bad man.

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 4:27pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,934 posts

Knight

It's a conspiracy!

ZOMG! Dozens of people admit having been part of a doping network just to take one guy down! Absolutely makes sense. He must be suuuch a poor, nice guy ;)

, after FBI proved he is innocent.

From what the OP states, the FBI merely deemed the witnesses unreliable. If they had proof contradicting the current investigation, why did this investigation result in this? Huh?

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 5:00pm

VonHeisenbourg

VonHeisenbourg

215 posts

Armstrong

-FBI deemed him innocent
-Passes dozens of drug tests
-witnesses deemed unreliable
-Plus he is known for donating to charities

-Second group comes in after their own "investigations" and deems him guilty

Hmmm, I wonder what to think. Innocent or guilty. A real toss up (sarcasm)

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 5:08pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,934 posts

Knight

-FBI deemed him innocent

Because FBI are the bleeping gods now?

-Passes dozens of drug tests

He had connections that manipulated the results, if he made them at all; he avoided many by knowing when they'll pass, and simply not opening the door.

-witnesses deemed unreliable

See first point.

-Plus he is known for donating to charities

Aaaand that is an incredible argument for him not being doped!

-Second group comes in after their own "investigations" and deems him guilty

Maybe they have new evidence? People started to talk? He apparently did mob/control them, after all.

Hmmm, I wonder what to think. Innocent or guilty. A real toss up (sarcasm)

This whole affair is a mess, it's a real mud party, and everyone is involved; I'm not demonizing him for being the big deception, but the Tour de France is world-wide infamous for doping. I think the organisators aren't innocent either, and it is possible that they dropped Lance after tolerating him all these years. Who knows... at least I'm sure of one thing: Lance is not clean. Never has been.

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 5:12pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,934 posts

Knight

Oh, and I forgot something..

-Passes dozens of drug tests

He did not pass them all however. But somehow managed to still get away.

 

Posted Oct 22, '12 at 5:35pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

3,950 posts

It's funny how it happened. He lost everything. His credibility, his job, his trustworthiness, his life, essentially. No one's willing to trust a man even accused of such a thing, whether or not he actually partook in such practices.

 
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