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Something is bugging me about the afterlife...

Posted Oct 25, '12 at 11:47pm

Blkasp

Blkasp

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This might be a bit off topic, but has anyone ever thought of how silly the concept of an eternal fire is? Consider what fire is.

Who says the afterlife will be limited by earthly limitations? Just throwing that out there.
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 12:19am

Kasic

Kasic

5,740 posts

Who says the afterlife will be limited by earthly limitations? Just throwing that out there.


Since we're just throwing things out there, why are we arguing about what it will be when we don't even know if it is?
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 12:29am

MageGrayWolf

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9,782 posts

Knight

I think we were talking about eternity, not haven or hell, or someplace else... It does not matter, if you live forever. There will be no time, no sun no moon, just eternity somewhere, and you will remember each and every day, or you might not remember, but you will not have to sleep, so you probably will, so there is no safe way for you to keep your sanity. Forever, doing the same things, going to the same places. You wont need to sleep, eat, drink. You will have to stay in that place for the rest of your life, and your life is forever in hell,in heaven, and in everywhere else.


This seems to jump to a lot of conclusions. Unfortunately we could only speculate. We have nothing supporting the existence of a soul or any dual mind body nature to our existence. From all observable references our consciousness is an emergent property of the various electrochemical interaction of the brain. Once we die those function cease and as such stop producing the emergent property that I our consciousness,or what we self internalize as us.
Now the matter that we were made of does continue on and get's recycled. In fact this happens a number of time through out your life a sold cells die and new ones take their place. In this sense you're no he same person you were when you were born. Though also in this sense we are eternal given that matter/energy can't be destroyed, only changed into different states.

We can think of life as a change of state for matter into a form that is self replicating and producing the ability to be aware of itself and it's surrounding. But only momentarily before changing again into another state that lacks those abilities.

CALL it what u will but u will regret it one day when u r in hell if u do not repent of ur sins and come to christ


What's next, you going to warn us that if we're naughty Santa won't bring us any presents?

Who says the afterlife will be limited by earthly limitations? Just throwing that out there.


This isn't an earthly limitation this is a basic property of what fire is. It would be like saying you have a water molecule that isn't composed of hydrogen and oxygen.
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 12:55am

politesse

politesse

2 posts

If we really are eternal creatures, it seems to me that instinct ought to take over at some point; however much we may fret about what to do after rewatching all of our favorite shows for the millionth time, it seems that's something that will come naturally to us once we actually get there. A god knows how to be a god, right? Or if not, he has nothing if not time to learn.

 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 5:42am

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,299 posts

Knight

I think we were talking about eternity, not haven or hell, or someplace else... It does not matter, if you live forever. There will be no time, no sun no moon, just eternity somewhere, and you will remember each and every day, or you might not remember, but you will not have to sleep, so you probably will, so there is no safe way for you to keep your sanity. Forever, doing the same things, going to the same places. You wont need to sleep, eat, drink. You will have to stay in that place for the rest of your life, and your life is forever in hell,in heaven, and in everywhere else.

Even if you're not talking about a specific place, you're still making loads of assumptions. Who says we'll even be aware of our post-mortem existence, if there is one? Who says we'll be restricted to one and the same place? Maybe we will all exist in a single chaotic entity without any consciousness of our own, just a collective mash of energy (or some kind of ridiculous esotheric stuff like that).

Well, this is quite mind blowing dude. you cant realy understand it, nor me.
I realy dont know. as a Science beliver, it dosent help at all. it preaty much say "you will not be here anymore". nothing. We cant imagain the void. Its just, Frustrating.

It may be frustrating, and I can tell from experience that trying to imagine nonexistence, as an existent being, is quite demoralizing, and really really stupid. But as I already said, it will be quite like eternal sleep without dreaming, and that doesn't sounds too bad, right?

CALL it what u will but u will regret it one day when u r in hell if u do not repent of ur sins and come to christ

Stop regurgitating and spewing your proselitism around, it gets annoying. Live and let live.
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 7:30am

Blackbeltr0

Blackbeltr0

802 posts

Since we're just throwing things out there, why are we arguing about what it will be when we don't even know if it is?


Yeah throwing things out but some of us are telling u something u r going to look back and say i should have listened if u want more info go to
Help and a Friend.
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 12:32pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,474 posts

u r going to look back and say i should have listened

Then we get into "what if your views are wrong?" Of the billions of perceptions of the afterlife, you're making the bold claim to have the right idea. What if you end up misguiding everyone who believed you?
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 12:58pm

christopher122

christopher122

19 posts

Your great fallacy is that you think that the soul is eternal. Do you have any proof for that?

 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 3:55pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,782 posts

Knight

Your great fallacy is that you think that the soul is eternal. Do you have any proof for that?


One would first need to demonstrate that the soul existed before we can assign properties to it.
 

Posted Oct 26, '12 at 5:23pm

Blkasp

Blkasp

1,357 posts

Since we're just throwing things out there, why are we arguing about what it will be when we don't even know if it is?

You tell me. :P

This isn't an earthly limitation this is a basic property of what fire is. It would be like saying you have a water molecule that isn't composed of hydrogen and oxygen.

An earthly limitation is something like gravity, whereas in space, you do not have that limitation. Fire has it's completely own limitations, that it requires, fuel, Oxygen, and heat. Perhaps there is a neverending supply of fuel in the afterlife.

I sort of screwed myself over with earlier that comment, I concede.
 
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