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How old do you think the universe is?

Posted Feb 27, '13 at 4:29pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,097 posts

cycles in the big bang theory?

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(sorry mage, havn't got time yet.)

 

Posted Feb 27, '13 at 6:50pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,676 posts

Knight

Please elaborate.

Just go back a couple pages. The universe is flat or at least close to flat. This means we are most likely to experience heat death where the universe just keeps expanding instead of a Big Crunch.

 

Posted Mar 1, '13 at 8:43pm

stinkyjim

stinkyjim

464 posts

I think it has always been. The big bang theory seems pretty accurate, but until we learn more (perhaps the next century will bring a new theory), it's all up to interpretation. I believe that it is infinite, both in size and time.

 

Posted Apr 24, '13 at 2:13pm

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

6-8000 years old.  God made it that long ago.  Scientists try to take God out of our lives by making up ridiculous time periods that they have no way of proving AT ALL!  At least I have written proof.

 

Posted Apr 24, '13 at 3:35pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,977 posts

At least I have written proof.

You have concrete written 'proof' of a rough estimate with a variance of ~30%?

 

Posted Apr 24, '13 at 8:40pm

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

As a catholic, I believe the bible

 

Posted Apr 24, '13 at 8:41pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,977 posts

Then why the 2000 year gap?

 

Posted Apr 25, '13 at 9:35am

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

I forget if there's 6000 or 4000 years in the old testament.  Remember, im only 15.

 

Posted Apr 25, '13 at 1:03pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

I forget if there's 6000 or 4000 years in the old testament. 

The most common Creationist date is 6000 years old for the age of the earth, give or take a few hundred years.

Remember, im only 15.

Age is no excuse. You're making definite claims and those claims are open to scrutiny. Saying that you're only 15 hurts your case, as you're implying that you may be wrong because you're inexperienced/young.

Scientists try to take God out of our lives by making up ridiculous time periods that they have no way of proving AT ALL!

They aren't trying to, "take God out of our lives," at all. Many scientists hold religious beliefs. Unlike religion, science isn't pulling these dates out of its rear end. We have every reason to accept dating methods, logic and empirical evidence over a old book which no three people can agree on in every spot. 

As a catholic, I believe the bible

Even if that's so, every heard of metaphors? Ever considered that it was written by man, not God? Ever realize that some of the things in there are obviously not true or possible (Noah's Ark, especially)? Even if you want to believe that there's a God and that he sent his son down in a, ahem, loving act of murder, that's no reason to take the bible as the literal truth. We have more evidence to the contrary that you will probably ever read in your lifetime and thousands of the smartest people in the world spend their lives arguing with each other and proving their points.

Whereas we have 2000 year old book which says rabbits eat their own cud and that thousands of animals could fit and live on a wooden boat for 40 days and nights, when it's smaller than the Titanic was.

 

Posted Apr 25, '13 at 4:29pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

Don't you dare deny the bible you blasphemous pig.  Get ur atheist as to hell.

If you're incapable of respectable discussion, I'll request that you refrain from posting about these topics.

The bible is one of many religious scriptures. I have no reason to take it any more seriously than I do the Torah, Koran, Vedas, Native American legends, Greek epics, or the Egyptian book of the dead.

Your personal scripture is not valid evidence in of itself. The claims it makes are subject to scrutiny as everything else is.

Btw, nothing i say that's not in the bible, im stating as a theory.

The double negative is a little confusing. There's also this I'd like to address.

A scientific theory is different from a theory any random person makes up. When you see a squirell squashed in the road and take a guess that a semi ran it over because of how uniformly flat it is, that's a theory.

A scientific theory is an in depth description of natural processes which have been verified by the scientific community and are supported by vast amounts of empirical evidence. There is not higher level of classification than a Theory when it comes to concepts.

Theories will never be a Law, not because it cannot be proven or is inaccurate, but because that is not how scientific nomenclature works. A law is a single concept which functions the same universally. Each are the top of their respective areas.

 
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