Ok, on the "Israel torture prisoners" - nice media base you used. very naturel and non-politic one.
Look, sorry if i took it too much personal. I dont say islam is bad or even that your country is that bad. But it just make me mad to see how you think israel is.
We are peoples! We are not deamons!
You talk like we kill the palestinians in millions. They live there life, we live our life. The onlt killed peoples are peopers who threat us.
I wont lie, there are some cases of over brutality in protests near the fence. But its not like the one in Syria! its beccause of a wrong way of shooting tear gas in the max. and that happen very very very rarely.
There are arabic peoples in our parllament. One of the head judges is arabic. our only problme is when rocekt are shot at us, and when terrorist try to harm our citizens. and peoples liek you say "you dont need to react because you started iot in 1948". Like we need to sit down and take it as Law from god.
So yea, we protect ourselve. and yes, we build houses as the population is growing. And any time we build just near jerusalem, even in our lines, the palestinians cry to the sky. They have some serius spin doctors. They know how to film. You can see a kid with a scarth and 14 womens cry out to the sky, yelling like the gates of hell just opened in front of them.
We dont 'Starve' Gaza, we dont kill palestinians on sight, and the settlers are not barbaric as you think. Some of them are racist fascist bastered, but they dont do more then just vandalism and graffiti.
As you said "We are not perfect", Israel is not too. but You say that for the most little squick we need to be destroyed, while the world shut up about everything that happen in mynamar, Iran, Syria or whatever.
How is that the UN voted so fast for the ceasefire here, while in Syria they cant? How 'Palestine' got indepenence so fast when kosobo, Catalonia and even ireland Needed years, even centuries to get one? The catalans wanted freedome even befor 1948. But yet the palestinians ask and they get.
Its and indipendece from and indipendence. Its like the dutch in south africa will want a country there. Its like the english will want a free state at USA. like the french will want one in Vietnam.
i want them to have one, but not like that. By talking. They just give the right wing parties more power. Just like they want. They want there peoples to get in war. This is there only way to stay in power.
PS We are not secular? last time i checked, Tel aviv is one of the most open places for gays, Seculars peopels are not rare and you can belive in whatever you want. Our government is not made by one ethnicity and There are no peoples who live in completly Poverty. So yea, we are preaty much secular.