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Posted Nov 29, '12 at 3:11pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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This is Gaza.

No this is gaza

This is Iran .

And this is myanmar

And here is your beloved Pakistan.

and this is your beloved Israel

People torture KIDS for being "infidels".

I don't know about this but another man killed salman taseer over blaasphemy and now he is waiting execution.

Gay peoples can be sentence for life in jail for being gays!

Yes they can be, Islam prohibits homosexuality and my country was made on name of Islam and unlike your hypocrate country, we don't show our selves as seculars.

So yea, blame Israel. But this is just a distraction from your rotten corrupted countries.
How is it that all of these Anti-Israel country are so curropted? how is it that the large majority of them are Dictatorship, or even a "republics" who supress minorities, and are very racist?

Because we are not in a constant state of war

Mayeb because your leaders posion you against us, so you wont think anything bad on them?

or maybe you don't know how much hated those leaders are?

Maybe because this way you hate the west? You burn USA flag, say its so bad in there, but yet you stone womens, prison gay peoples

Our religion says so.
Also notice that this is internal law.
Non muslims can basically do any thing (other than blasphemy) in pakistan.
I am a muslim I can't drink, but if I were christian, I could open a brewery.
Please tell me how common it is?

So befor you blame Israel of doing everything wrong you can think of, watch your own home.

Yes I admit we have problems, I never said we are perfect.

Israel genocide teh Palestinians? The amount of deads is much much much smaller then the Pakistan berzerk from time to time on the hindues. But then the Islamic world is silence. Its ok, they are not muslims.

Can you tell me from where you got this info?

As long as tehy are not muslims you dont give a ****.

My religion tells me to care for them.too, but where ever I see, I see muslims being opperressed.

In suria, just while could collmun was on, 400 peopels died. Did you cared? NO.

Strawman

THE 50 innocente who died are more importent. teh peoples who died in Israel are not. The peopel who died by the Syrians are not.

Again strawman, also, its 160 people and I never said killing civilians is good, so, another strawman

You sir, is a hypocrate living in a lie of a perfect world fighting a evil world. Get out punisher! there is hard truth outside!

Just an unbacked accusation

Or maybe keep on, live your life wher Israel is bad bad, the palestinians are saint, and all the muslims are moral peoples when the infidels are evil and weak.

Israel IS bad but Pals are not saints neither are all muslims saints and infidels are not necessarily weak or evil (hitler was an infidel too)
**** a barn full of strawmen.

 

Posted Nov 30, '12 at 7:51am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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Please tell me how common it is?

This was in response to this

and a murdure on "teh family respect" is so common? how is that?

 

Posted Nov 30, '12 at 4:57pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,858 posts

Dani, this
is you beloved country's response to pals state hood bid

 

Posted Nov 30, '12 at 6:02pm

danielo

danielo

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I was mad no less then you punisher. The story is this -

Our minister of security has announced he retire. He was a known fighter against the settlements. This is like a 'revenge', a way for Netanyaho to try to get more voters in the coming elections.

And just to make it clear - building new houses on barren land is the same as tourtering, as killing? I dont justifid the settlements at all, but its not like we build on arabic villages, destroying them and build on it. Its just expanding to jerusalem. A legal one, not like in the arabic villages wher they just build.

 

Posted Nov 30, '12 at 6:14pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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I was mad no less then you punisher. The story is this -

Our minister of security has announced he retire. He was a known fighter against the settlements. This is like a 'revenge', a way for Netanyaho to try to get more voters in the coming elections.

And just to make it clear - building new houses on barren land is the same as tourtering, as killing? I dont justifid the settlements at all, but its not like we build on arabic villages, destroying them and build on it. Its just expanding to jerusalem. A legal one, not like in the arabic villages wher they just build.

seriousely?
Arabs built illegaly?
BTW you have not answered my other points.

 

Posted Dec 1, '12 at 6:08am

danielo

danielo

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Ok, on the "Israel torture prisoners" - nice media base you used. very naturel and non-politic one.

Look, sorry if i took it too much personal. I dont say islam is bad or even that your country is that bad. But it just make me mad to see how you think israel is.
We are peoples! We are not deamons!
You talk like we kill the palestinians in millions. They live there life, we live our life. The onlt killed peoples are peopers who threat us.
I wont lie, there are some cases of over brutality in protests near the fence. But its not like the one in Syria! its beccause of a wrong way of shooting tear gas in the max. and that happen very very very rarely.

There are arabic peoples in our parllament. One of the head judges is arabic. our only problme is when rocekt are shot at us, and when terrorist try to harm our citizens. and peoples liek you say "you dont need to react because you started iot in 1948". Like we need to sit down and take it as Law from god.
So yea, we protect ourselve. and yes, we build houses as the population is growing. And any time we build just near jerusalem, even in our lines, the palestinians cry to the sky. They have some serius spin doctors. They know how to film. You can see a kid with a scarth and 14 womens cry out to the sky, yelling like the gates of hell just opened in front of them.

We dont 'Starve' Gaza, we dont kill palestinians on sight, and the settlers are not barbaric as you think. Some of them are racist fascist bastered, but they dont do more then just vandalism and graffiti.

As you said "We are not perfect", Israel is not too. but You say that for the most little squick we need to be destroyed, while the world shut up about everything that happen in mynamar, Iran, Syria or whatever.
How is that the UN voted so fast for the ceasefire here, while in Syria they cant? How 'Palestine' got indepenence so fast when kosobo, Catalonia and even ireland Needed years, even centuries to get one? The catalans wanted freedome even befor 1948. But yet the palestinians ask and they get.

Its and indipendece from and indipendence. Its like the dutch in south africa will want a country there. Its like the english will want a free state at USA. like the french will want one in Vietnam.

i want them to have one, but not like that. By talking. They just give the right wing parties more power. Just like they want. They want there peoples to get in war. This is there only way to stay in power.

PS We are not secular? last time i checked, Tel aviv is one of the most open places for gays, Seculars peopels are not rare and you can belive in whatever you want. Our government is not made by one ethnicity and There are no peoples who live in completly Poverty. So yea, we are preaty much secular.

 

Posted Dec 1, '12 at 1:30pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,858 posts

Ok, on the "Israel torture prisoners" - nice media base you used. very naturel and non-politic one.

Look, sorry if i took it too much personal. I dont say islam is bad or even that your country is that bad. But it just make me mad to see how you think israel is.
We are peoples! We are not deamons!
You talk like we kill the palestinians in millions. They live there life, we live our life. The onlt killed peoples are peopers who threat us.
I wont lie, there are some cases of over brutality in protests near the fence. But its not like the one in Syria! its beccause of a wrong way of shooting tear gas in the max. and that happen very very very rarely.

There are arabic peoples in our parllament. One of the head judges is arabic. our only problme is when rocekt are shot at us, and when terrorist try to harm our citizens. and peoples liek you say "you dont need to react because you started iot in 1948". Like we need to sit down and take it as Law from god.
So yea, we protect ourselve. and yes, we build houses as the population is growing. And any time we build just near jerusalem, even in our lines, the palestinians cry to the sky. They have some serius spin doctors. They know how to film. You can see a kid with a scarth and 14 womens cry out to the sky, yelling like the gates of hell just opened in front of them.

We dont 'Starve' Gaza, we dont kill palestinians on sight, and the settlers are not barbaric as you think. Some of them are racist fascist bastered, but they dont do more then just vandalism and graffiti.

As you said "We are not perfect", Israel is not too. but You say that for the most little squick we need to be destroyed, while the world shut up about everything that happen in mynamar, Iran, Syria or whatever.
How is that the UN voted so fast for the ceasefire here, while in Syria they cant? How 'Palestine' got indepenence so fast when kosobo, Catalonia and even ireland Needed years, even centuries to get one? The catalans wanted freedome even befor 1948. But yet the palestinians ask and they get.

Its and indipendece from and indipendence. Its like the dutch in south africa will want a country there. Its like the english will want a free state at USA. like the french will want one in Vietnam.

i want them to have one, but not like that. By talking. They just give the right wing parties more power. Just like they want. They want there peoples to get in war. This is there only way to stay in power.

Got any sources to back it up?
or just talking?

PS We are not secular? last time i checked, Tel aviv is one of the most open places for gays, Seculars peopels are not rare and you can belive in whatever you want. Our government is not made by one ethnicity and There are no peoples who live in completly Poverty. So yea, we are preaty much secular.

Yeah, a place called Israel is "Secular"

 

Posted Dec 1, '12 at 10:06pm

rafterman

rafterman

623 posts

Iran has signed the Nuclear Non proliferation treaty and has kept all obligations  of the treaty. Israel has done neither.

 

Posted Dec 2, '12 at 10:11am

danielo

danielo

1,365 posts

And yet they are full speed ahead for a bomb rafterman. You are quite naive here.

I see that you are know very well how it is in Israel punisher, About the life in Israel, the laws and etc.

So what are we, a religius place? Israel is one of the only secular place in the middle east. We are more like USA and Europe then all the other nation who in most stoning is still a normal way to punish, wher racism and hate is a normal part of teh politics. In what arabic nation a party became illeagel for being racist? In what other arabic nation There are real parties, who are not rule by radical islam or by a tryant? SO yeas, we are secular. We are a democracy wher there are REAL election, who are not based only on ethinity like in most of the midle east and asia. If a person get killed in a protest, its rre and outrage here is Israel. In the entire middle east its statistic.

And no, i dont have links and sources for every word i say, But belive me i dont lie. I trust you on that, when you say about pakistan, so please trust me either.

 

Posted Dec 2, '12 at 12:44pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,087 posts

We are more like USA and Europe

but still you had to assassinate a hamas leader even during a time of relative peach.
you still have to learn allot about what you can and can't do to your enemy in times of "peach".

 
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