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Posted Dec 16, '12 at 7:57pm

partydevil

partydevil

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I wouldn't say that Dishonered is COMPLETELY original, it's basically Assasin's Creed with a steampunk-y feel, teleporting powers, voodoo magic... and that's about it.

yes it's a stealth game. but AC wasn't the 1st stealth game either.
thief or hitman for example are much older.

but the concept of the game is original. thats partly why i added it to that list. (just like brutal ledgend)
also did i add it because i can't call any other game in wich you can choose to kill, not kill or get past undetected to you objective.

And guns, swords, medieval, future, space, are, by the same logic, overdone.

those are very broad concepts.
zombies is a very narrow concept.

 

Posted Dec 17, '12 at 3:39pm

KentyBK

KentyBK

555 posts

but the concept of the game is original. thats partly why i added it to that list. (just like brutal ledgend)
also did i add it because i can't call any other game in wich you can choose to kill, not kill or get past undetected to you objective.

Deus Ex and Splinter Cell (to a certain extent) come to mind. And no, steampunk isn't a 100% original setting either.

 

Posted Dec 17, '12 at 3:58pm

d_dude

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zombies is a very narrow concept.

However a game being in the "zombie" genre does not define gameplay, and therefore does not define whether or not a game is original. You even listed Fortnite in your holy list of original games. What do you think you fight in that game? Zombies is the answer. From PvZ to the Black Ops minigame, there are an incredible amount of gameplay styles.

 

Posted Dec 17, '12 at 8:00pm

IAgreeWithYou

IAgreeWithYou

419 posts

Although zombies is a narrow concept in your eyes...it really isn't.

You can have a RPG, arcade, action, adventure, CYOA, Turn based RPG, Strategy zombies game if you wanted to.

Although zombies is a genre it shouldn't really be one. You can call the walking dead original because it combined two existing ideas and executed them almost perfectly. Nothing is really original anymore. It is all just about looking at existing ideas and combining them to make something perfect. Nearly all the games on your list could be split up into multiple different ideas that were formed together with a concept that had a bit of a twist to an already existing one.

thief or hitman for example are much older.

I think the developers even said that there was inspirations from these games. It shows, because thief is an amazing game. :)

 

Posted Dec 17, '12 at 9:34pm

jdoggparty

jdoggparty

3,314 posts

zombies is a very narrow concept

Compared CoD Zombies, to Left 4 Dead, and then to Dead Island. Three completely different games, all great though.

 

Posted Dec 17, '12 at 9:34pm

partydevil

partydevil

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And no, steampunk isn't a 100% original setting either.

so it was only partly the reason.

anyway. it's not the only example i gave. forget about it then and forget about fez 2.
the point i made is still there.

genre does not define gameplay, and therefore does not define whether or not a game is original.

not the gameplay but it does make the entire setting.
zombie games have/are A. always about the apocalypse. B a few or one last surviver. C. loads of slow and easy to kill enemy's. D. most have wierd weapons to kill whit.

You even listed Fortnite in your holy list of original games

holy? where you got that from?
it's just a list that jumped to mind. i never said anything about anything being holy.

What do you think you fight in that game?

can't say they are zombies really.
coming from under the ground. gone during the day. not looking like dead humans..

nha those aint zombies.

Nearly all the games on your list could be split up into multiple different ideas that were formed together with a concept that had a bit of a twist to an already existing one.

(look d_dude this a good argument ;) )
yes most could. and that they brought it together and gave it their own twist to it. makes it original for me.
what is there to twist about zombies? if the zombies change, the public wont like it. (running, swimming and ladder climbing zombies have been tried and failed.)

I think the developers even said that there was inspirations from these games.

dunno that. i only follow a few developers. i dunno anything about the rest.
but there are a few compare-ables whit the games. so it wouldn't surprise me.

 

Posted Dec 17, '12 at 11:47pm

outlawd28

outlawd28

2 posts

Halo 4

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 3:40am

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

8,491 posts

Halo 4

And why do you say that?

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 6:07am

IAgreeWithYou

IAgreeWithYou

419 posts

And why do you say that?

And why did you say that? :)

The game isn't original

I just looked through some games trying to find a  game that plays like the walking dead and is executed well. Unfortunately (I really wanted to find more...) the only one I could find was heavy rain (Which I've already played).

I'm not going to be an idiot here and say that "OMG LULZ WALKING DEAD, SO ORIGINALZ" but I will say that it is a fantastic game. Do I think it should be game of the year? No way! Dishonored or borderlands all the way. However I don't think that just because it isn't completely original it will change how good the game is. If it isn't original the game can still be good. If the title was "Most ground breaking game of the year" I would totally agree with you and laugh at people who thought otherwise but for game of the year I think it was a worthy contender. It was executed well, the story was excellent (Although a bit cheesy) and it gave you something to think about after you finished the game. It isn't completely original but I haven't ever seen a zombie CYOA ever. Along with the mass market with zombies it also appeals to people who like a compelling story and is why (In my opinion of course) I think it was a great game.

Also just because it is zombies doesn't mean it has to directly confine what you can do while keeping to the theme. Sure no one has done it yet but all it takes is someone who is willing to try it out and not be only concerned with, "We might not make money..." and the new game could come out. We just need a developed to strike at the right time.

 

Posted Dec 18, '12 at 9:28am

partydevil

partydevil

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However I don't think that just because it isn't completely original it will change how good the game is.

for those here that think i do..... i dont.
but i agree whit IAgreeWithYou that it in no way should be GotY

 
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