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Posted Dec 12, '12 at 9:13pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

Zzz. I really get tired of the people who harp on and on about how guns should be illegal because they kill people.

Yes, they do.

Would making them illegal prevent deaths?
No.

As stated earlier by EmperorPalpatine, the gun wasn't legal to have to begin with, so there goes your entire preliminary argument. Next, as he also said, a crazy guy who wants to kill people is going to find some way to do that, be it stealing a truck and running into the store or making a bomb. Does that mean every potential weapon should be banned? Bombs are already illegal to begin with and yet we see tons of terrorist bombings in the UK.

Banning something doesn't make it go away. People who don't follow the laws to begin with aren't going to follow the law not to use something that has been made illegal. Plus, at this point in time for America, guns are so prevalent that banning them would piss off collectors and other owners and would require an insane amount of work to collect and dispose of. For those who didn't comply, they would then be considered a criminal for something which is reasonable to have (if used for the right purposes) and the actual criminals would still have their guns or get them in illegal ways.

So, shhhhhhhh on the whole anti-gun thing.

in my opinion, we need more people with guns (who arent crazy) to potentially stop events like this from happening in the future

That's not a really good solution either. Imagine this: A man walks into the mall with a gun. Standing by citizen pulls out their gun and shoots the would be robber/murderer in the arm/leg. Another standing by citizen hears the shot and runs into that area and sees one guy holding a gun and another guy on the ground bleeding. What do you think he's going to do with his gun?

Basically, a bunch of untrained people carrying guns is no safer than a robber with a gun because of confusion.

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 9:16pm

BurnKush420

BurnKush420

102 posts

Basically, a bunch of untrained people carrying guns is no safer than a robber with a gun because of confusion.

most people who have concealed carry permits do have some training in how to use their firearms

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 9:38pm

handlerfan

handlerfan

192 posts

The war on Christmas comment.
I want to say that Fox News rages on about people banning Christmas dispays etc and here we have someone going to a mall in the Christmas season and shooting innocent people. I happen to think that shootings in the festive season is worse than a manufactured paranoia that some bad people want to take away Christmas.
And it sounded good.

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 9:46pm

handlerfan

handlerfan

192 posts

Sorry I missed out an as. Tragedy strikes as the Happy Valley Santa arrives.
I'll stop explaining now.

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 9:59pm

AatosLiukkonen

AatosLiukkonen

67 posts

Ah. Can't wait for the news to go hog wild on gun control and how guns are the cause of all evil.

3 people? That's it? I guess the media really is fighting for it's blood money. There are places in the world where this happens ever hour, even more, and many more people die. 3 people? Give me a break. This isn't news, this is the media wanting views in exchange for human misery.

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 10:15pm

Jacen96

Jacen96

2,208 posts

One: There are only 2 dead victims of the shooting, the third was the gunman committing suicide.

Two: I got a feeling that this thread is going to echo the "Gun controle gone wrong again" thread that was created by partydevil (i think) after the guy shot his son who was dressed like a robber.

p.s. My History teacher has a poster that says "If guns kill people, then cars drive drunk, pencils mispell words, and spoons made Oprah fat (Not sure about the last bit, except for I am pretty sure it involved a fat Oprah)"

~~~Darth Caedus

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 11:15pm

SSTG

SSTG

10,981 posts

Knight

Okay here's a story: Once upon a time (yeah that's cheesy) there was a redneck who had and idea to build a gun factory. He then sold deadly weapons to the rest of the World and he became filthy rich.
Then he thought, "hey why don't I sell weapons to everybody in the US so I can get even richer." Then comes the NRA and all it's bullcrap. Now any redneck can have a weapon so they can shoot animals who can't shoot back at them and they're so proud of it. Meanwhile the criminals buy some guns too at first, then they steal them and create their black market. Then comes the weirdo who buys guns them start killing innocent people...
Now where did it all start? Remember the rich redneck ******* who built a gun factory?

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 11:41pm

BurnKush420

BurnKush420

102 posts

Meanwhile the criminals buy some guns too at first, then they steal them and create their black market. Then comes the weirdo who buys guns them start killing innocent people...
Now where did it all start? Remember the rich redneck ******* who built a gun factory?

no the criminals steal from the people who buy the guns who buy them for legitmate purposes(hunting, target practice etc) . and a rich redneck did not just build a gun factory, companies who have millions of dollars manufacture and distribute the firearms with no intent on them for being used to kill people. you cant blame the factory or the person who owns the company for any violence caused by firearms

 

Posted Dec 12, '12 at 11:43pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

Now where did it all start? Remember the rich redneck ******* who built a gun factory?

You do realize that guns were being made looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before the NRA, right?

Guns aren't new and trying to place the blame on "the rich redneck" is quite frankly pathetic.

The real answer as to "where did it all start" would be in China over 10 centuries ago.

So please, drop the annoying and stereotypical attack on the NRA.

 

Posted Dec 13, '12 at 1:01am

NoNameC68

NoNameC68

5,071 posts

Knight

Okay here's a story: Once upon a time (yeah that's cheesy) there was a redneck who had and idea to build a gun factory. He then sold deadly weapons to the rest of the World and he became filthy rich.
Then he thought, "hey why don't I sell weapons to everybody in the US so I can get even richer." Then comes the NRA and all it's bullcrap. Now any redneck can have a weapon so they can shoot animals who can't shoot back at them and they're so proud of it. Meanwhile the criminals buy some guns too at first, then they steal them and create their black market. Then comes the weirdo who buys guns them start killing innocent people...
Now where did it all start? Remember the rich redneck ******* who built a gun factory?

I would like the name of this "redneck" you speak of.

There's nothing wrong with hunting.

Instead of blaming the criminals, you're blaming the tool makers. Guns are tools, most people don't abuse them.

 
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