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Posted Jul 2, '13 at 9:53am

Nerdsoft

Nerdsoft

1,283 posts

If it's for 13+, why did my birthday work?

 

Posted Jul 3, '13 at 7:43am

nichodemus

nichodemus

13,622 posts

Knight

If it's for 13+, why did my birthday work?


It just does. They rely on users to sift out the underage people.
 

Posted Jul 5, '13 at 6:42am

Nerdsoft

Nerdsoft

1,283 posts

I was under the impression it was PG13.

 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 12:19am

benman113

benman113

332 posts

Moral of the story: You do NOT need a gun for a particular activity. In any given activity (And I challenge you to give me a valid, legal activity for which you would need to personally own a gun), there are many other options. Why buy a gun for personal protection when a Riot Shield blocks shotgun shells? Why buy a gun for hunting when the point of hunting (and every other sport) is satisfaction, and since you get more satisfaction with more challenge, and since a crossbow offers more challenge than a gun, you'll get more satisfaction with the crossbow. Why buy a gun based on the Second Amendment when the Colonial-age guns were either giant cannons or black-powder, muzzle-loading Muskets? Did the Founding Fathers have AR-15's, and SPAZ-12 shotguns,And AK 47s, not to mention all the accessories like laser scopes and hollow-point bullets? I dont think so!

The second amendment isn't for Protection from criminals, it isn't for hunting and it isn't just to satisfy the stupidity of a person who just wants a gun.
It is for Protection of freedoms, it's so people can protect themselves from oppressive governments foreign or domestic. Yes believe it or not when governments become too big and take too many rights from their people bad things happen. Like The holocaust, Stalin's reign, Maximilian Robespierre's reign of terror and Mao Zedong's great leap forward to name a few.
People who argue to take away gun rights do it under the pretense of safety but those who sacrifice their liberties for safety deserve neither liberties or safety. The founding fathers were fighting one of the largest empire of all time so they weapons that were up to date for their time and actually their weapons were better then the opposing British troops so why shouldn't someone have a weapon that they can fight a military with. Since most armies use assault rifles Machine guns and sniper rifles why can't a person have those same things to defend themselves from that military and it's oppressive government?
 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 2:02pm

Wyrzen

Wyrzen

327 posts

The second amendment isn't for Protection from criminals, it isn't for hunting and it isn't just to satisfy the stupidity of a person who just wants a gun.
It is for Protection of freedoms, it's so people can protect themselves from oppressive governments foreign or domestic. Yes believe it or not when governments become too big and take too many rights from their people bad things happen. Like The holocaust, Stalin's reign, Maximilian Robespierre's reign of terror and Mao Zedong's great leap forward to name a few.
People who argue to take away gun rights do it under the pretense of safety but those who sacrifice their liberties for safety deserve neither liberties or safety. The founding fathers were fighting one of the largest empire of all time so they weapons that were up to date for their time and actually their weapons were better then the opposing British troops so why shouldn't someone have a weapon that they can fight a military with. Since most armies use assault rifles Machine guns and sniper rifles why can't a person have those same things to defend themselves from that military and it's oppressive government?


I agree. And if gun control is taken to the max, you know who's going to still find and own guns? The bad people. Sure a riot shield is a great thought. Until there are two of them in your home. And how are you supposed to defend the rest of your family or loved ones? Or they come up and use the shield against you. And how is a crossbow different than a gun? You can still kill people with it, very effectively.
 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 3:12pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,627 posts

Knight

It is illusory to think having guns at home will make it safer in case of a break-in. It won't; usually it only escalates things, costing lives (of the house owners).

And assumnig the government took too much power, what are you gonna do? Go out with your measly guns against the well-equipped military? I'd like to see that. Even if you bought whatever weapon you could, you would only slightly delay your inevitable demise.

And yes, criminals may have an easier access to weapons, but restrictions will also affect them. Don't think they will not be affected at all, when suddenly guns cannot be bought in every kiosk around.

 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 3:48pm

dontsmelly

dontsmelly

1 post

If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.

Banning guns will only harm the people who follow the laws. Criminals are already breaking laws, so why would they listen to the anti-gun laws?
 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 4:48pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,311 posts

Banning guns will only harm the people who follow the laws. Criminals are already breaking laws, so why would they listen to the anti-gun laws?

welcome to the forum.
plz. read up on the topic a few pages befor commenting on it.
we have already done that argument.
 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 5:20pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

10,085 posts

Banning guns will only harm the people who follow the laws. Criminals are already breaking laws, so why would they listen to the anti-gun laws?


Laws, what's the point in having them if criminals are going to break them anyways?
 

Posted Jul 6, '13 at 5:29pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

Laws, what's the point in having them if criminals are going to break them anyways?


I don't think that did much to argue. Sure, sometimes being a smartass helps in an argument, but probably not here.
 
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