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Is it OK to teach evolution in public schools?

Posted Jan 12, '13 at 11:46pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

4,430 posts

Yes, there's evidence for evolution, there isn't for creationism.

In a Creationists mind...the world and us being here is their "evidence"

 

Posted Jan 13, '13 at 3:56am

Nerdsoft

Nerdsoft

408 posts

Absolutely. These things make complete sense when you've been raised into them. I was taught about evolution when I was nine (or maybe ten) and then read The God Delusion at age eleven, so I know a little about evolution. I was an agnostic before that, and I'm a full-fledged atheist now. I think that if schools teach RE, they have to teach evolution too. Give the kids a little perspective.

 

Posted Jan 13, '13 at 5:28am

Deth666

Deth666

670 posts

Isn't knowledge power? No, keep them in the closet and shun knowledge that's the way to go? I think children should be taught everything. I don't think that they should be taught what to think. "Oh no! They are teaching children about a subject I don't believe in." I mean if we are going to accommodate creationists, are we gonna accommodate holocaust deniers as well? It's a slippery slope, my friend. I was taught creationism and evolution as well as the whole we were put here by aliens as an experiment theory. A few years later, I was even taught other religions' creation stories. Teach everything and let the kids decide. Kids aren't stupid and if they are it won't matter what you teach them cause they'd be too dumb to understand it anyway.

 

Posted Jan 15, '13 at 6:47pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,129 posts

 

Posted Jan 16, '13 at 8:17pm

SteveeXb

SteveeXb

460 posts

I think it would be good to teach both, and not only have one side of the story.

 

Posted Jan 16, '13 at 9:06pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,129 posts

I think it would be good to teach both, and not only have one side of the story.

One side is just made up fiction while the other is based on evidence. Do you really think both are equally valid?

 

Posted Jan 16, '13 at 9:10pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,159 posts

I think it would be good to teach both, and not only have one side of the story.

Adding on to what Mage said, it's not even one side of the story. There are many different religious accounts of creation. Unless you are also advocating that we teach the thousands of other creation stories, you're just being a hypocrite.

Creationism does not belong in science class. It is not science.

 

Posted Jan 17, '13 at 4:48am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,621 posts

Church is for creationism and its ilk. School is for learning and seeking truth. If you don't want your beliefs questioned, don't send your child to school.

 

Posted Jan 17, '13 at 5:40pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,159 posts

If you don't want your beliefs questioned, don't send your child to school.

I thought the standard for that was sticking fingers in one's ears and singing Amazing Grace.

That, or beating the non-believers into submission.

Church is for creationism and its ilk. School is for learning and seeking truth.

This. You don't see atheists (well, not that I'm aware of) petitioning the government to have churches teach evolution. It's an entirely different subject.

 

Posted Jan 17, '13 at 6:37pm

theEPICgameKING

theEPICgameKING

458 posts

Alright then. Let's get this Logic'd.
1: The #1 priority of School is to teach students factually verified evidence (Truth.)
2: Truth can be defined in many ways by many people.
3: However for this argument, I will be stating Truth as anything that can be scientifically proven.
4: Therefore, if something can be scientifically proven, it is True. If it relies on non-scientific evidence (Belief), it is not True.

Logic'd the premise for my REAL argument.

1: Darwin brings up a mountain of evidence for evolution.
2: Church relies on the belief that "God" (Or whoever) suddenly created the universe in 6 days and "Magically" populated the Earth with all species.
3: People used to believe that the "Heavens" were in the sky.
4: We disproved that with the Space Program.
5: Therefore, we've already disproved 1 Religious belief.
6: There is more evidence for evolution than for creationism.
7: Therefore, Evolution is (at the very least) more scientific, and thus more True, than Creationism.
8: THEREFORE, Evolution should be taught in schools, or at the very least, Creationism should NEVER be taught in schools, as it violates the school's primary objective: Teach kids the Truth.

Counter-argument from my Catholic mother.
1: If you blaspheme against the almighty Lord giving life from nothing by relating us to beastly apes, you will spend an eternity in hell for your wicked mind! Amen!
(I swear on my reputation that she really wrote the above words.)

...Which to believe: Facts or threats? Scientific evidence, or fire and brimstone?

....So, any things I need to tweak?

 
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