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Is it OK to teach evolution in public schools?

Posted May 13, '13 at 12:19am

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

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You would get them at baptism.


I was baptized. ****ty events happened in my life..and great events happened in my life. I, for some time, did attribute those things to a god

Similar events have also happened to members of other religions..and they attributed them to their god.

Do you get what I'm saying here? The events that happened in my life, whether they truly happened or not, happened to others..but we all attributed them to whatever deity we believe in, contradicting each other on the truth (or..what we thought was the truth).

In your case..your god is the truth, while the others are false (and thus, the other people are wrong in attributing their events to a different god), and this is because you have faith in your god. Nothing more. The same goes for the other anonymous/random people.

In our case...evolution and the like are truth because they can be backed by science. We need not have faith in these sciences, because faith is not needed. They are the truth because, in the scientific world, they are true.

Sorry, if u aren't born with faith, a special knowledge of it, u need to see


In the case of EmperorPalpatine and myself (at least, as far as I know)..we were born with faith. We used to be amongst the religious.

Miracles do happen, and there is proof on the internet, in history books, and even all around you, in a common sense.


I used to perceive things as a miracle too. Then I realized that miracle is just a fancy word for "something I, personally, can't explain" or &quoture coincidence".

Oh..and a fun thing I saw. Can't find the video..but in it a guy breaks down how praying works...with a gallon of milk. Basically..pray to a gallon of milk (for example: "Please help me with financial issues&quot..and one of three outcomes will occur
1) Your prayer will be answered (ex: you will find a $5 bill on the road)
-God is gracing you
2) Your prayer will be denied
-God knows what is best
3) Your prayer is answered after a decent amount of time
-You just had to be patient

Again..this is to a gallon of milk. The same outcomes will occur..only the object in which you attribute the actions to has changed from holy to ordinary

Found the video!
 

Posted May 13, '13 at 12:33am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,477 posts

we were born with faith.

Technically, we're all born agnostic atheists. No knowledge of any gods, thus no beliefs in them. But yes, we were indoctrinated from a very young age.

Then I realized that miracle is just a fancy word for "something I, personally, can't explain" or &quoture coincidence".

Hey, me too! Ain't it weird how "miracles" went from surviving furnaces, raising the dead, and clearing waterways with a magic stick to "I prayed and found my car keys! Divine intervention prevails!" or "After praying and taking some asprin, the demon causing my headache fled from me!"
 

Posted May 13, '13 at 12:36am

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,757 posts

Technically, we're all born agnostic atheists. No knowledge of any gods, thus no beliefs in them


Hey now..don't confuse him..you know what I meant =p
But yes, we were indoctrinated from a very young age.
Tis what I meant..just using his words

Hey, me too! Ain't it weird how "miracles" went from surviving furnaces, raising the dead, and clearing waterways with a magic stick


Hmm..wonder why we don't see miracles like these anymore
*whispers* maybe is 'cause this shiz don't happen
 

Posted May 13, '13 at 1:57am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,477 posts

Tis what I meant..just using his words

I personally didn't feel like saying "I got a 'supernatural gift' but lost it sometime later" or something when that's not the case. That's the problem when people make up their own meanings for words. If I say "computer" means "magical pixie horse", confusion happens.

wonder why we don't see miracles like these anymore

The insanely hypocritical thing is the claim that God revealing His presence in any way would screw with our free will. Seriously? He reportedly SPOKE to crowds of people directly with a thunderous voice, instilling so much terror that they begged that He speak to one person who could relay the info [Ex 20:18,19]. If He's willing to do that for one group and not another, especially when such a thing keeps you from eternal torment, that's favoritism.
 

Posted May 13, '13 at 10:17am

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

but you dont see proof of god but do believe in it.
and you are not willing to look at proof contradicting whit you believe in god that has no proof.
so basically, your walking around blind

To me, the world around me is proof of God. The beauty in nature and the high intelligence of man.

 

Posted May 13, '13 at 10:19am

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

Hey, me too! Ain't it weird how "miracles" went from surviving furnaces, raising the dead, and clearing waterways with a magic stick to "I prayed and found my car keys! Divine intervention prevails!" or "After praying and taking some asprin, the demon causing my headache fled from me!"
Oh yeah, very mature, mocking my religious beliefs. I can't believe you guys, it's actually quite funny. Chill bro

 

Posted May 13, '13 at 10:27am

KnightDeclan

KnightDeclan

487 posts

if so, then it is very easy for you to give me this evidence of miracles, right?
if you could just give me this evidence. and it turns out to be actual miracles. then you've won my soul and i return back to believing in some sort of higher power. (easy as that.)

So satisfy for your lack of faith, why don't you look it up. There are far too many for me to list. (and Im to lazy to)

I was baptized. ****ty events happened in my life..and great events happened in my life. I, for some time, did attribute those things to a god
God gave us free will, not everything happens because of Him.

does this mean you have returned whit a new account? or made a alt for this kinda non-sense? and why did you return? just simple trolling?
Idk what ur getting at here, but I'm only on here for the same reason ur on here. If you think this is trolling, then well, you need to get out more.

 

Posted May 13, '13 at 12:03pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,740 posts

To me, the world around me is proof of God.


The world around muslims are proof of their religion being correct.
The world around jews are proof of their religion being correct.

The world around us is not proof of anything except itself. Every religion attributes existence to itself by default, since they claim to know how the world came to be. This is an invalid argument.

Oh yeah, very mature, mocking my religious beliefs. I can't believe you guys, it's actually quite funny. Chill bro


Care to actually explain why this may be so?
 

Posted May 13, '13 at 12:19pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,477 posts

mocking my religious beliefs.

Nope, my mom believes in demons and has said equally ridiculous things before.

the world around me is proof of God. The beauty in nature and the high intelligence of man.

I can point out many things in nature that you'd likely find ugly, as well as many unintelligent people. How does that support your case? This seems like Ray Comfort's banana argument, saying the world was made for us. His proof was the cavendish banana, the common yellow kind. He pointed out that there are 5 points around the outside, matching the human hand so we can grip it easier. There's a protective skin that changes color to show when it's ripe with a tab on top for easy access that God designed like man designed a soda can. When opened, it rests gracefully on the hand. It's curved toward the face. Etc. He later retracted his statements upon learning that the cavendish banana is one of the most selectively cultivated and genetically modified foods in the world. To say everything in nature was designed, specifically with us in mind, is futile. If that's the case, please explain the pineapple and coconut.

not everything happens because of Him.

You say He's the cause of everything, then that He's not. Which is it?
 

Posted May 13, '13 at 12:31pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,477 posts

mocking my religious beliefs

Or did you mean the part about 'magic stick'? If so, insert 'holy staff'. Does that make you happy? All warm n fuzzy now?
 
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