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xeano321
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Since John has retired from Armor Games, and along with John went the iconic blue elephant that is beloved by all AG users. While this elephant was regarded as a de facto mascot, it suddenly occurred to me, why doesn't AG have an official mascot? While the choices are limited, (unless a new character is created), I was thinking maybe Sushi Cat?

What are your opinions, views, thoughts, recommendations, ideas, or suggestions? (Admins and mods, you're included (not that you need to be told you're included, since you would include yourself anyway, but I thought it would be nice for you to know you're welcome.))

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Reton8
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*Sigh* Here we go again...

That is not a mascot, that is a symbol. An entirely different subject.


From Wikipedia: Mascot
The term mascot â" defined as a term for any person, animal, or object thought to bring luck - colloquially (informally) includes anything used to represent a group with a common public identity, such as a school, professional sports team, society\\, military unit, or brand
name.


Team mascots may take the form of a logo, person, live animal, inanimate object, or a costumed character...


From Merriam-webster.com: Mascot
: a person, animal, or object adopted by a group as a symbolic figure especially to bring them good luck


From thefreedictionary.com: Mascot
A person, animal, or object believed to bring good luck, especially one kept as the symbol of an organization such as a sports team.


From Google (just search "mascot definiton&quot: Mascot
A person or thing that is supposed to bring good luck or that is used to symbolize a particular event or organization.


Am, I beating a dead horse here? Maybe that should be the mascot?
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5996/dudleyf.png

Although, I almost made the same mistake. I get that most the time when referring to a mascot the only thing that usually comes to mind is some sort of animal (or a person dressed in an animal costume). And it's implied the that we are looking for a human/animal mascot.
xeano321
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*Sigh* Here we go again...


Again? We've done this before?

Just to clarify, (since it has become apparent that some people do not know this already) this suggestion is not to find a person dressed up in an animal costume.

Okay, to sum up my thoughts about what and when the mascot would be used. Sushi Cat or whatever mascot is picked need not be plastered all over the whole site and everywhere Armor Games is on the internet, in person, ETC... So, it would be more of a part time mascot that you don't see all the time, yet is still associated with AG in general. (Something like the Blue Elephant.)

Am, I beating a dead horse here? Maybe that should be the mascot?


Do you have some problem with the suggestion? If you don't like it, just say so without the negative comments (A dead horse as the mascot? That's a rather cruel thing to say.)
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Maybe an armored ninja will be the new mascot. After all, there's an armatar contest for it.

I do like the prospect of something that's armored/has to do with armor or medieval times being the mascot, whether it's an armored ferret or the duo of swords crossed behind a shield or something else.

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Semantics, semantics...

AG already has a symbol. This symbol appears at the beginning of any AG sponsored game. The mascot as addressed in this thread is intended as a cuteness factor that advertises for AG, for example the Blue Elephant, who appears in a lot of John's games that showcase the kind of quality work that AG supports. It's recognizable and people enjoy playing those kind of games.

Perhaps the meaning of 'mascot' and the intention this thread addresses are different, but adopting this thread from a standpoint that the words must have a specific meaning because the dictionary says so is kind of annoying and isn't true most of the time, as in this case. There's no reason to take things quite literally at all, and it only distracts the point and makes you look kind of stupid. It's also quite off-topic. *cough*

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Again? We've done this before?

Yeah it's happening again boys! *cough* don't look back a few pages.

Do you have some problem with the suggestion?

No, I said, I said, "Am I beating a dead horse here." Because instead of giving just one definition of mascot, I gave four. Thus, after one you would have gotten the point, but with four iterations, I have "beaten a dead horse.".

There's no reason to take things quite literally at all, and it only distracts the point and makes you look kind of stupid. It's also quite off-topic.


Linguistic prescription vs linguistic description
also there is another linguistic debate (or it's the same one, I can't remember, but I had a clas that went over this) on whether language should change (as new words like "googled" enter the lexicon, or should remain relatively unchanged, for if the language changes too quickly, too many new terms will enter the lexicon making it difficult for people of the same language to understand each other.

"Those in favor of Dudley Dead Horse for Mascot say, 'aye'. Those opposed to Dudley Dead Horse for Mascot say, 'nay'."

"Dudley says, 'Neigh'."
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also there is another linguistic debate (or it's the same one, I can't remember, but I had a clas that went over this) on whether language should change (as new words like "googled" enter the lexicon, or should remain relatively unchanged, for if the language changes too quickly, too many new terms will enter the lexicon making it difficult for people of the same language to understand each other.

In looking at the OP, the user mentions 'character', which is more than just a mascot. Context, not definitions, are the key for most linguistics, it seems. Anyways, don't continue it on here... At least make another thread if you want to continue.

Nice ban hammer, though :b
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Nice ban hammer, though :b

Dudley says, "It's not a ban hammer, Its a beatin' hammer... neigh."
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5996/dudleyf.png

Dudley also says, "Character has multiple definitions, while the defining attributes of mascot (person or object) are given within the same definition rather than in two separate terms. *Puts on dead-horse-glasses* The first lends that in order to understand what character is one must choose a definition from a set of definitions, whilst the latter lends that in order to understand what a mascot is one can only choose from one definition. *takes dead-horse-glasses-off* There's a big difference, there's a big difference, there's a big difference, there's a big difference, neigh."

And I still say Dudley Dead Horse for Mascot. Also, sushi cat can ride on his back.
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i say stick with the swords and shield

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The horse made me laugh out loud.

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If AG had an HR department they would be freaking out about the dead horse thing.

Shouldn't we just make a list (made by Ferret) and then vote?

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The first lends that in order to understand what character is one must choose a definition from a set of definitions, whilst the latter lends that in order to understand what a mascot is one can only choose from one definition.


I think you're taking this a little too seriously. I don't believe you're seeing my point.

Shouldn't we just make a list (made by Ferret) and then vote?


I don't think one person should be involved in making the list, but I do feel that Ferret should approve it. Firstly however, I think we should find how such a mascot would be used.

I vote for a Ferret. Not Ferret himself but a ferret.


I know we all love Ferret (okay, loving Ferret might be too far, but at least we all appreciate his presence as well as his awesome work), but I don't feel that having a ferret as AG's mascot would really be fair. No offense intended, but that would be more of Ferrets personal mascot rather then a mascot for the entire community.
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Jumping into the symbol vs. mascot thing..

As it stands..the "shield and swords" is the symbol of AG. There is no promotional effort put behind it to dictate it the mascot.

The mascot and symbol can be one and the same (Such as the St. Louis Cardinals, with their symbol being the cardinal on a bat, and their mascot being Fredbird the Cardinal) that does not have to be the case (such as the Colorado Rockies, with their symbol being the mountains, and their mascot being Dinger the Triceratops)

The problem, however, with the "shield and swords" alone is that it has limited exploitable abilities. For irl usage..it is unnatural to carry your swords sheathed in the shield..and having it on ones back would only be too close of a resemblance to Link in LoZ. Then for game usage, unless it is given the ability to move on its own and possibly talk, it would require something else to hold it, thus giving the association to the entire image and not just the "sword and shield"

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I think we should find how such a mascot would be used.


Simply exploitations...in-game referencing, t-shirt design, posters, plush toy, (possible costume for conventions that AG will go to so we can meet them?), etc
xeano321
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Thank you pang. I couldn't think of the correct way to make my point.

I'll ask Ferret again, and see if the admins can release a statement concerning a mascot for AG.

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