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Posted Jan 11, '13 at 7:41pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

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I grew up in a family split completely down the middle as far as political parties went. I had uncles and aunts who were insanely democratic and liberal, and uncles and aunts who were insanely republican and conservative. My parents were both extremely republican and conservative, but I feel that I've been influenced by both sides of the spectrum. I would probably call myself a republican most of the time, but I'm a fairly liberal one at that. Yes, I'm one curious character.

I've been interested in politics for years, and sometimes I can't seem to choose between either party/ideal. So, I'm asking the AG community to persuade me to either the democratic/liberal side, or towards the republican/conservative side.

 

Posted Jan 11, '13 at 9:14pm

MageGrayWolf

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Knight

Why does it have to be either or? I consider my self to be an independent liberal. (that's liberal not Liberal) Basically I try not to align myself with any party.

 

Posted Jan 11, '13 at 9:46pm

nichodemus

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Knight

Pick your own stance on different issues, then vote for the party that best fulfills most of those opinions in the form of concrete policies.

 

Posted Jan 11, '13 at 10:17pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

The point was to have a democrat vs. republican thread. I'm not seriously looking for input for either side. But thanks anyway, haha.

 

Posted Jan 11, '13 at 10:25pm

partydevil

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5,130 posts

The point was to have a democrat vs. republican thread.

2 party's that are bashing each other to win a election.
it's really stupid.
why not more party's so that everyone actually can find a party close to them. and not choose if the room is black or white. some kind of grey is better then either.
maybe then the party's are going to say what they stand for and not only bash the face of the other candidate. atm, nothing is keeping them in control.
 

Posted Jan 11, '13 at 11:33pm

BigP08

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I think it would be better to first look at your general positions socially and economically. If you are generally pro gay marriage, pro choice, pro education funding, etc, you'll find that democrats line up with your social views better. If you tend to be against gay marriage, pro life, and against excessive social spending, republicans will probably agree with your social views better.
Also, I would look at economics, as democrats tend to favor the ideas of pump priming, and higher taxes with more supportive programs (welfare, unemployment benefits, medicare and medicaid) while republicans tend to favor trickle down, lower taxes and lower spening (with the exception of defense spending). So I would rate which issues matter most to you, which approaches you believe strengthen the economy best and which candidates are going to align themselves with those positions most often. It isn't always a matter of party lines either. If qualities such as bipartisanship or integrity tend to be most important, evaluate the candidates on a case by case basis. Not all republicans are good or bad, and same with democrats. I don't think you need a permanent party alignment but rather a consistently well-researched opinion on your candidates before you vote.
If you lean towards one person against another, I would also challenge you to come up with five good reasons to vote for the other person, and then see if you have more reason to go with your first choice. Being skeptical of your gut feeling is always a good thing.

Basically, define what positions you hold and how important they are, research each candidate on a case by case basis, and be open minded to the idea that your opinion is wrong.

 

Posted Jan 12, '13 at 6:14am

nichodemus

nichodemus

13,295 posts

Knight

why not more party's so that everyone actually can find a party close to them. and not choose if the room is black or white. some kind of grey is better then either.


Because that often leads to politicking instead of enacting actual governmental policy. Parties spend half their time trying to form coalitions or playing kingmaker that nothing gets done. The flip side is that you have a mature and more open political system.

On the other hand, I live in a country where thankfully, although there is one ruling party with almost all the seats, has been ranked amongst the top few transparent states in the world. Sometimes, one party might not be a bad idea if that party is geared towards the good of the nation in general, i.e the Communist Party of China. It might be corrupt, but it takes good care of the nation, and works for the nation. I.e State competence.
 

Posted Jan 12, '13 at 12:46pm

partydevil

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5,130 posts

Parties spend half their time trying to form coalitions or playing kingmaker that nothing gets done. The flip side is that you have a mature and more open political system.

does it matter that they take a half year to form a coalition, if you get a mature and open system for the next 3 and half year in return? and a closer bond between the citizens and politics.
 

Posted Jan 12, '13 at 10:04pm

BRAAINZz

BRAAINZz

797 posts

why not more party's so that everyone actually can find a party close to them. and not choose if the room is black or white. some kind of grey is better then either.


Because it further divides the votes and you could end up with minority governments. Not that this is ever a bad thing, it allows the other parties to keep the one in charge from going power-crazy, like what is happening right where I am.

Back to topic, I prefer Liberal over Conservative. Conservative rubs me the wrong way, with people more influenced by a bible than quality of life. I also disagree with low taxes, here in Ontario the healthcare system is crashing due to lack of funding, funding that could be coming from taxes that don't really exist.
 

Posted Jan 12, '13 at 10:12pm

EmperorPalpatine

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9,473 posts

I'd like raised taxes + less spending to pay off foreign debts. Not sure which side that falls under.

 
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