I agree, what is the point of the show all quests button if they all show up anyway?

What? I have all the quests (aside for some legacy and one other that just isn't showing on my profile). So the show all quests button takes you away from your profile, where most users probably don't have all the quests, to the page that actually shows you all the quests.

Now I can understand the thought that we can already see the quests' pictures so what is the point in obtaining the quest if you already get to see what it looks like. Well, you get the quest so it will show on your profile and you can showcase the "mad skillz" you have. Also, the other sites let you see what the badge pictures look like before also.

I really don't understand what you're getting at.

Hmm, well check my profile and see what you think.

Okay. *Click, scrolls down, clicks back button* Yup, just like I said before, it looks like heck.

The space under the post count and name looks sad, now it's devoid of a badge.

Hehehe, someone acknowledged my opinion enough to ask me to respond. Now I can be a cranky hipster.

On the Ferret team: Ferret seems like a good guy. He needs a bit of time to settle in, but he's cool. My only complaints are that, well, he's different. He's not Carlie. Things aren't the same as they were before. I'm not saying that's bad. But it hurts. It hurts. That, and my plan to become BFFs with Ferret haven't really come to fruition yet. I've been too busy to talk to him much. Oh well.

It's no secret that I've had reservations about the new moderators. Frank was always cool, because he's awesome, and because he was on CT... although he hasn't been on much these days and I miss him :(

And MrDayCee, or whatever his name is, seems pretty cool. I just found his induction to the team jarring for three main reasons.
1. I didn't know who the heck he was. Likely my fault, for not being here much... but, like, does he not post on WERP? How am I supposed to judge him? I LIKE Nemo because of his WERP content (even if we don't always agree). I like Strop for what he says in WERP. Even what he says in AMW is cool because of his analytical edge. I detest Asherlee based on, that's right, WERP content.
2. To my understanding, the model of mod team additions has been altered slightly under the new admins. That is, the mod team doesn't or didn't unanimously approve potential applicants or necessarily know them before their addition to the mod team. I don't care about pragmatic issues, it just makes the community feel different. Not bad. Just different. And that hurts.
3. The new mods aren't the old mods. Okay let's be honest. The new mods aren't Strop. Frank is really an awesome guy. But... well, I don't know if you guys have talked to him much, but he's just a man.

John. Oh John. It hurts my soul. Right in the feels. John was one of the things that made AG great. And he's gone. I'm not saying he shouldn't have left. But he was an important part of who we were. Of our identity. Our pride. We were proud that AG was John's site. That's why it hurts that he left.

And of course adding insult to injury, he left for Kong. Again, I am NOT saying he shouldn't have gone. But Kong is worse than AG. The community is horrible. It's not a petty rivalry thing. It is to some, I'm sure, just like how some SC2 players hate LoL because of a stupid rivalry thing.

Kong isn't bad because it's not AG. Kong is bad because it's bad. LoL doesn't suck because it's not SC2. It sucks because it sucks. It just hurts to see us lose something that made us great... to empower a crap community like Kong. Man I hope there are some LoL players who are mad now.

One last thing to cover. Quests. They're awful. Let me explain why.
1. They look hideous on your page.
2. They're populist nonsense appealing to the lowest common denominator.
3. and most important: the system was implemented before I achieved gold king status. No one thought to ****ing warn me this was gonna happen so I could boost my activity real quick to make it?

No, I'm not "just butthurt." I am more butthurt than you could possibly imagine.

So to sum up what Xzeno said: He hates change, dislikes Kong and Quests, misses John.

Well dear Xzeno. Not everyone goes to CT. Plus I cleared my cookies and cache and could not get back in. Stupid pH being the only one in the room at the time.  Where was I. O yes. Ferret is nice. I agree with everything you said about him. He seems less strict than Ian. I do not know him that well either but he will talk to you....sometimes.  If you were here more you would know MrDayCee. He was pretty much the whole Popular Media section. Also not all mods go to the politics/religion place that I see as hell. Never seen Cen there when he was a mod. You did not say anything about Zoph. Also John leaving sucks. Never been to Kong so I cannot rate it. Quests are better but they mess up the profile. Other than that I love them.

My only complaints are that, well, he's different. He's not Carlie. Things aren't the same as they were before. I'm not saying that's bad. But it hurts. It hurts.

You are nostalgic, and you have just proven so. While I cannot make the same comparison you can, I can still say that I think Ferret is a good addition.

To my understanding, the model of mod team additions has been altered slightly under the new admins. That is, the mod team doesn't or didn't unanimously approve potential applicants or necessarily know them before their addition to the mod team. I don't care about pragmatic issues, it just makes the community feel different. Not bad. Just different. And that hurts.

Here's the way it used to be:

cormyn wrote:

In a nutshell, candidates are presented to the entire Moderator team, and are reviewed thoroughly by an Admin. The Moderator team decides unanimously (the exception being users who are on hiatus/holidays) on whether to accept the user or not; a negative response could either be "this user should never be a moderator" (and give reasons why) or "let's check back in 3-6 months". If an affirmative decision is made, an Admin user will Email the user asking if they'll accept the role and responsibilities. If the user accepts, the Admin user will promote them to become a probationary Moderator. We guide probationary Moderators for a little while and then release them into the wild.

I don't see how MrDayCee's addition was "not unanimous". If it wasn't unanimous, the policy must have been changed by the Ferret team. As for my opinion on MrDayCee, I think he has done well as a mod so far.

They look hideous on your page.

Quests are still in their early stages and will most likely look better as they are updated. One suggestion would be to limit the number of quests shown in a profile so that profiles aren't excessively long.

the system was implemented before I achieved gold king status. No one thought to ****ing warn me this was gonna happen so I could boost my activity real quick to make it?

You have just shown that you cared about AP. If no updates were promised, I would prefer the old system, but the admins have promised updates to the quest system, most likely including points for quests.

I agree with daleks on the quests. They should just show your 5 most recent quests and have a "see more quests by *insert username here*" button. Then that lists all the quests. Of course, this would be optional. Some people like sloppy pages...

I agree with daleks on the quests. They should just show your 5 most recent quests and have a "see more quests by *insert username here*" button. Then that lists all the quests. Of course, this would be optional. Some people like sloppy pages

I have to agree 100%. Showing more then just several quests just makes the profiles look ugly... Heck, my desk looks neater right now then most profiles do. (If you saw my desk, you would find that to be an excellent comparison.)

What? I have all the quests (aside for some legacy and one other that just isn't showing on my profile). So the show all quests button takes you away from your profile, where most users probably don't have all the quests, to the page that actually shows you all the quests.

Now I can understand the thought that we can already see the quests' pictures so what is the point in obtaining the quest if you already get to see what it looks like. Well, you get the quest so it will show on your profile and you can showcase the "mad skillz" you have. Also, the other sites let you see what the badge pictures look like before also.

I really don't understand what you're getting at.

You have 71 quests. Your profile shows 71 quests, so what is the point of having a button to view all quests on a different page when they are already on your profile.

They should use a system similar to the SC2 showcase, where you pick the quests you want to show up (on SC2 you can pick 5), and the rest are linked to around the area where your showcase is.

~~~Darth Caedus