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Posted Feb 25, '13 at 11:52pm

octagonapuss

octagonapuss

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can some one plz tell me what monarchy in idk even how to spell it other wise i think that socialism is the best because of the fact that hunger and rich people staying rich is abolished for any whom this may consern im only 14 so im fairly unedgucated when it comes to politics but im willing to learn more and willing to change my opinion i know socialism in NOT the most liked form of politics but i think if we mixed democrice (spelled it wrong) and socialism it would be the best my user name is octagonapuss and please leave any comments you want on my what ever its called wall good by

 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 12:16am

Kasic

Kasic

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can some one plz tell me what monarchy in


A monarchy is a form of government in which the head of state is typically referred to as a king/queen and leadership is passed on by descendants.

i know socialism in NOT the most liked form of politics but i think if we mixed democrice (spelled it wrong)


People don't like it because they're opposed to being made to help the entire society. Whatever their reasons for that are differs depending on the person.
 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 7:58am

partydevil

partydevil

5,322 posts

[quote] can some one plz tell me what monarchy in


A monarchy is a form of government in which the head of state is typically referred to as a king/queen and leadership is passed on by descendants. [/quote]

many monarchies these days have also a democratically choosen leader. and the king/queen only have a small place in the government. mostly of importens in the time between 2 choosen leaders.
 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 6:54pm

NoNameC68

NoNameC68

5,236 posts

Knight

People don't like it because they're opposed to being made to help the entire society.


Actually, it's because we have a group that THINKS they know how to help everyone in an efficient manner, when really it's quite inefficient, or should be left to the individual.

People who oppose socialism believe people shouldn't be forced to help others, but allowed to help others.
 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 8:09pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,746 posts

Actually, it's because we have a group that THINKS they know how to help everyone in an efficient manner, when really it's quite inefficient, or should be left to the individual.

People who oppose socialism believe people shouldn't be forced to help others, but allowed to help others.


Which is why I included this statement: "Whatever their reasons for that are differs depending on the person."

Some are scared of it and don't know it actually is.
Others, like you, think it won't work or that there are better ways.
Reasons differ.

Personally, I fall under the opinion that form of government doesn't matter. As long as the leaders are good, the people prosper. Each system has its values and shortcomings, but as long as people get along and aren't asshats to each other, stuff works out.
 

Posted Feb 27, '13 at 4:25am

Nerdsoft

Nerdsoft

1,284 posts

[quote]Definitely a benevolent, omniscient AI. Humans are just too... flawed.


Define benevolent. I would honestly be afraid of those people programming such an AI. Humans are flawed because they're subjective, among others. Which is not always a bad thing, depending who you ask.[/quote]
Programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI programmed by a benevolent AI... you get the picture. Enough time for the AI chain to improve itself.
 

Posted Feb 28, '13 at 5:11am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,854 posts

Pro and Con are opposites. What's the opposite of progress? (Yes, it's a quote from somewhere)
Personally, I like a democratic socialism, or a government that can actually support the poor and the well-being of everyone under the government's control.

 

Posted Feb 28, '13 at 7:58am

Nerdsoft

Nerdsoft

1,284 posts

Read Iain M. Banks' Culture series, it pretty much sums up my views on the subject.

 

Posted Feb 28, '13 at 8:31am

wolf1991

wolf1991

3,533 posts

People who oppose socialism believe people shouldn't be forced to help others, but allowed to help others


It sounds good, but there are only certain things that a government has the power to do. For instance, with growing environmental concerns, I personal do not believe that individuals will "do the right thing" without the government having to step in and say "This is what's going to happen. Yes, this may be a slight infringement on some freedoms, however, the long term benefits outweight the short term losses"
 

Posted Feb 28, '13 at 12:35pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,746 posts

I personal do not believe that individuals will "do the right thing"


Thanks for saying this wolf.

@NoName, I think this is where most of our arguments spring from. I do not trust in the average kindness of humanity to run a large society without being made to do things which are needed to help the whole, such as taxes and regulations. Allowing everyone to do what they want is (ideally) the best, but realistically, not everyone is a kind/helpful/society oriented person.
 
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