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Posted Feb 17, '13 at 5:13pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

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Knight

@pballaddict

I'm not really sure how the first link helps what you're trying to say in any way. As for your second link, it's false. Einstein never did this.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

Nahhhhh don't go there, you guys are the ones that changed the subject to a debate about Christianity.

You started this thread saying how atheists/homosexuals aren't tolerant of Christianity while Christians are oh so innocent. This was being refuted.
Now to be fair there are Christians who are tolerant. The thing is there are plenty who aren't and plenty who try to force their beliefs on others. This is where the backlash comes into play.

It's like religion never learned to play well with others.

Other kids (atheists/homosexuals etc.): Let's play ball.
Rich (religion):No, I don't like ball.
Other kids: Okay (they go off to play ball)
Rich: (Runs over, grabs the ball and kicks it over the fence) Stop playing ball! I don't like ball!
Other kids: (Get mad at Rich for ruining their game)
Rich: (runs away) I'm telling you're picking on me!
Rich: (while telling on the other kids about how mean they were also tries to make a rule so that no one is allowed to play ball)

That's pretty much religion being the "victim" here.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 5:20pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

129 posts

It doesnt matter whether Einstein said that at all. What matters is the point that boy made.

And Kasic, yeah of course they don't go anywhere, because there isnt much else to say. I'm on the winning side here. Christians win either way, whether theres a God or whether some man named Darwin is right... sooooo yeah.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 5:31pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

It doesnt matter whether Einstein said that at all. What matters is the point that boy made.

The point the boy made, that some things are defined by the absence of another, is not relevant to the topic. Nor does it prove God in any way, shape, or form.

I'm on the winning side here.

If you're referring to the debate, shoving off burden of proof and bringing irrelevant matters into your own topic is not winning.

If you mean the afterlife, you have nothing to base that on.

Christians win either way, whether theres a God or whether some man named Darwin is right... sooooo yeah.

Unless Buddhism is right. Or Hinduism. Or Wicca. Or Satanism. Or Islam. Or it's really Zeus. Or it's actually the various Native American religions. Or it's Voodoo. I could go on like this for a while.

We've already gone over how Pascal's Wager is false. Believing in one religion just because is no 'safer' than not believing. There are tens of thousands of different religions even if you want to count one of those as being right. It could be that none of them are and you're 100% screwed regardless. Or, we could drop the insanity, and just look at how much more sense it would make for there to not be a god.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 9:37pm

Bladerunner679

Bladerunner679

1,343 posts

Christians win either way, whether theres a God or whether some man named Darwin is right... sooooo yeah.

you are far from winning on this matter. an afterlife is a silly notion, but you would lose either because your religion was wrong, or because when you come to die, you will discover that you have never lived because you let "god" dictate your actions. it's not the length of life, it's the quality, and I think my quality of life as an atheist is somewhat better because I know that there is no need to waste my time with pointless tradition and triviality.

-Blade

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 9:58pm

Devoidless

Devoidless

3,553 posts

If the OP (and only defender of the views in it) decide to take such a fallacious and stubborn stance, is there a reason to keep this thread open?

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 9:59pm

Bladerunner679

Bladerunner679

1,343 posts

none that I can see unfortunately. shut it down, my friend.

-Blade

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 10:37pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,673 posts

Knight

It doesnt matter whether Einstein said that at all. What matters is the point that boy made.

Okay let's look at the point it's making. Basically it's saying that evil is simply the lack of something (good). That would mean then that the most evil thing you could possibly have is an empty universe, as it would be completely devoid of good. Adding anything to this universe , such as Jeffrey Dahmer, Hitler, Kim Jong il... basically someone we would tend to think of as evil could only make this empty universe less evil.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 10:51pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,673 posts

Knight

Guess I will get this in while I have the chance.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/11194_543193582367373_657685729_n.jpg