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Do you believe secret societies exist?

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 3:34pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

128 posts

Do the Illuminati exist?

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 3:52pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,223 posts

Secret societies of all kinds certainly existed/exist. But the rumors and myths around them are most certainly false or at least blown out of proportion. They're usually just people meeting in a larger private group.

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 3:57pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

128 posts

Do you think they worship the devil?
And control the masses through media, music, politics, government and such?

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 4:12pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,223 posts

Do you think they worship the devil?

The illuminati? No, I don't think so. Theistic satanists do, and I'm sure there are such groupings.

And control the masses through media, music, politics, government and such?

No, that's one of those urban myths or conspiracy theories that paranoic people like to imagine.

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 4:23pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

128 posts

Can you provide proof?

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 4:46pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,223 posts

Can you provide proof?

If you provide me evidence that there is an illuminati group that controls the masses, I will look at the evidence and give my opinion. Anything else doesn't make sense.

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 5:02pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

128 posts

Aha! But you still didn't answer my question. C;

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 6:07pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,223 posts

Because there is nothing to say. There is absolutely no evidence pointing at a secret society called illuminati that controls the masses. You make the claim, so you give me evidence supporting it.

 

Posted Feb 10, '13 at 7:18pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

128 posts

You obviously didn't look at my original post where I ASKED if they exist.

 

Posted Feb 11, '13 at 3:05am

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,223 posts

You want evidence against the illuminati? I gave you some. The total lack of evidence for it. What else do you need? Do I have to explain how politics and industries work?

Also I'd like to see what evidence you can give me that there is no secret conspiracy of lizardmen that dress up as human and want to take over the world. Because there migth as well be. Can you provide proof against it?

 

Posted Feb 11, '13 at 8:15am

firedog12

firedog12

246 posts

There's actually tons of proof of the Illuminati in a lot of music. For example, in the music video S&M by Rihanna you can clearly see the sentence "Princess of the Illuminati" Here watch it for yourself. At 3:40 of the music video, the newspaper in the background clearly says "Princess of the Illuminati" Also, the song faded by the rapper tyga in the beginning of the song if you play it lough enough you will hear "be nice to satan" There's no satanic messages in the music video as far as I know though.

You want evidence against the illuminati? I gave you some. The total lack of evidence for it. What else do you need? Do I have to explain how politics and industries work?

As I just showed you right now, there is indeed evidence. Illuminati isn't only politics too. Illuminati is in the music and I have evidence of that. You are just saying that the Illuminati is government only because you see the pyramid with the eye on top on the American 1 dollar bill. As for the entity they worship, I have no clue. There's probably a higher possibility that they worship satan and aren't God loving Christians. I don't know if they're gonna take over the world with this "New World Order" thing too. I think I can see where you had your doubts. I do kind of think a group taking over the world does sound a bit fake.

To answer your question pballaddict, yes the Illuminati is very real. And yes some rappers do hide these things in their music videos. There are some people who doubt this organization completely and think it's a myth because it's something that sounds extremely silly although there is enough evidence to say that it is real. HahiHa sounds like he believes it, but he doubts that there is going to be a "New World Order" and these famous singers hide subliminal messages in their music. The Illuminati is of course a thing that has been with the government for a long time, but I think it's bigger than that.

 
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