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Do you believe secret societies exist?

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 2:51pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

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Nah bro, but you are also saying they aren't. So if they aren't, then there shouldn't be any problem with proof. Other than that, your statement is invalid.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 2:54pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,566 posts

Nah bro, but you are also saying they aren't.

What I am saying has nothing to do with your claim.

If you were claiming rainbow elephants existed and that they flew at an altitude of 500m and were invisible, you would still need to prove that claim even if I claimed that they were in fact pink and had giraffe necks. What I am saying has nothing to do with your claim.

Also, I'm not making a claim to begin with. Saying "Show me proof" is not a claim, nor is taking the neutral stance of "I don't think they exist because I have not seen evidence of them."

Provide proof of your claims.

So if they aren't, then there shouldn't be any problem with proof.

My "proof" in this instance is that I have no evidence for them. Provide me with some and I will view it and come to a conclusion.

Other than that, your statement is invalid.

You have no concept of logic, do you?

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 3:17pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

129 posts

I would provide proof, but you would probably call it spam,
And you too should provide proof. An Even Steven.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 3:22pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,566 posts

I would provide proof, but you would probably call it spam,

Not if you told me why said article was linked, or it was self evident.

And you too should provide proof. An Even Steven.

I and others have said this many times. We are not making the claim that the Illuminati exist. Saying that we have no evidence is not making a claim. You are the one saying the Illuminati exist AND that you have done research which proves that. Link the evidence which you already said you have or please kindly shut up.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 4:40pm

IAgreeWithYou

IAgreeWithYou

419 posts

And you too should provide proof. An Even Steven.

*ehm ehm*

If you believe something doesn't exist, the lack of proof is evidence in this case.

What you should be doing is offering some proof (You've already named several things already). You will then ask for Kasic to examine the proof and explain if he thinks it is valid or not. However, make sure the proof is presented in order and is very exact. Don't say, "Subliminal messages in songs". Say, "Subliminal messages about the illuminati in (Insert song here) at 3:45 on the song".

He will then say "It is not valid because of _________". You will then argue over if the proof is real or not. Eventually it ends with no one changing opinion and a bad opinion of each other.

The end.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 5:16pm

pballaddict

pballaddict

129 posts

You are right about that, but what is your side?

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 5:32pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,566 posts

You are right about that, but what is your side?

Doesn't matter what our side is. You're the one making the claim, show proof for your claim. You already said you have proof. I'll just keep repeating myself until you decide to stop being childish.

 

Posted Feb 17, '13 at 7:32pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,942 posts

Knight

You guys are too stuck in reality.

A wonder you even know the word reality, though I doubt you know what it means.

They do exist.

They existed, nothing serious shows they still do.

They are a Luciferian group who believes to bring about the New World Order.

Rumors, gossip, paranoid accusations, American people freaking out about their freedom. I challenge you to show me how you know this all. In the meantime, check out my links further back.

Ever wonder why they put chemicals in our water and food, people say things but not the Mainstream media?

Chemicals in the water? Industries, idiots, suncream, medics, etc. etc. Which is mentioned by several media I know.

Why are there negative things such as drugs and sex being promoted in our videos?

Those are both very human things; just because you never encountered any of it in your little secluded world, doesn't mean most people have the same experience. And I really don't see how sex is a bad thing in general..

Why are there backward messages in music? Why are there subliminal messages in CHILDRENS CARTOONS?

Artists have a sense of humor, too, ya know -.-

It's all about control guys. And doing Satan's bidding. They believe that he is the true creator. I'm not turning this into a religious debate either. It doesnt matter whether you believe in God or not. Regardless, they are out to control the masses. And i agree, they are hiding in the open. But the masses are too influenced by mainstream to know or even care. I believe many of you are in denial and need to wake up.

Says the one who apparently knows so many claimed facts about that super-hyper-secretive secret society. Makes absolutely perfect sense. Eh-yup.

I've done plenty of research, and i can say they are very much real.

K then. Convince me. Show me the results of your research pwetty pwease.

Nah bro, but you are also saying they aren't. So if they aren't, then there shouldn't be any problem with proof. Other than that, your statement is invalid.

Doesn't make yours valid either though.

I would provide proof, but you would probably call it spam,

No, not if it is consistent.And if it isn't, why clal it proof? But that's not up to you to decide. Show it anyway, what's the trouble?

 

Posted Feb 18, '13 at 8:23am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,633 posts

No, not if it is consistent.And if it isn't, why clal it proof? But that's not up to you to decide. Show it anyway, what's the trouble?

The trouble is he has no proof and is avoiding the subject.

 

Posted Feb 18, '13 at 7:50pm

StormWalker

StormWalker

2,799 posts

See, if any of us had proof, like people have been saying, then we could look at it and come to a conclusion about whether your proof is good, or if it's just rumors and gossip. Give us references and information!
I know I said I'd like to believe anything on that other page, but this is a bit crazy-sounding.
But then again, in your defense, I have no proof for what I like to believe in. All I have are some fiction books and a crazy imagination. But I'm not actively trying to get other people to believe in what I read. I don't need proof if i believe it myself.
Since you're trying to convince other people to believe in what you're saying, you need to give us proof.
It all comes back to proof. Proof proof proof.
Proof doesn't sound like a word anymore.

 
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