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Why Would Anyone (in the right mind) Worship Satan?

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 1:47am

EmperorPalpatine

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and it was up to us to decide where we wanted to go with it.
You must agree that you would rather have the choice to follow God or not. Rather than being without option.

"Make the payments or I break ya legs. The choice is yours. I coulda smashed 'em at any time, but now it's up to you whether I do or not."

Rather, he has set up systems for forgiveness so that even the most flawed humans can be with him for eternity if the choose.

What of those whose sin included blasphemy against the Holy Ghost [Mark 3:29]?

 

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 2:03am

Alexander116

Alexander116

109 posts

Mark 3:29 is referring to those who refuse to accept the Holy Spirit, and thus are denying their own forgiveness. God cannot forgive those who are not accept it.

I would caution you about reading a single bible verse and drawing conclusions about it. Read about the context, and the surrounding chapter, this often clears up any controversy that a verse supposedly arouses.

 

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 2:12am

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,953 posts

Knight

Alexander, you ignored Emps first point. That "choice" supposedly given to us isn't really one.

But that's besides the point anyway. I don't see in what way this tree sham relates to satanism?

 

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 2:16am

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

8,236 posts

Rather, he has set up systems for forgiveness so that even the most flawed humans can be with him for eternity if the choose.

So a man who commits horrendous deeds towards the world, but asks for forgiveness..has a better chance at getting into heaven than an atheist who does nothing but good?

1) if there is no tree there is no choice.
2) God created the tree
3) God created the choice.

Am I incorrect?

>Asserting that Yahweh is the actual deity.

What gives us the choice is the vast number of deities.

I would caution you about reading a single bible verse and drawing conclusions about it. Read about the context, and the surrounding chapter, this often clears up any controversy that a verse supposedly arouses.

Which Emp has done.

 

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 11:04pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,667 posts

Knight

I would choose to say that God gave us the ability to choose our own destiny, and it was up to us to decide where we wanted to go with it.

If we had this free will we would have had the choice to follow This God or not without having to have something placed in our way that would result in punishment.

If as the claims go is that the we were once perfect, even with free will we would always freely make the right decision. Since this is not the case this leaves us with either a God who screwed up or we were intentionally flawed and doomed by this God to eventually screw up.

Another thing the use of "us" here. If we are speaking Biblically literal it wasn't us who screwed up but our ancestor. We aren't being given the same choice as that ancestor was given. We are being forced to apologize and live with the consequences for someone else's choices rather than our own. And I have to ask how is that free will to have to owe up to a choice we never made, but someone else did?

>Asserting that Yahweh is the actual deity.

We are speaking in the context of the Bible.

 

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 11:24pm

ChillzMaster

ChillzMaster

1,357 posts

You're not a theistic satanist, Chillz, are you? A notion was thrown into the debate about how people became satanists after feeling betrayed by god, and I was thinking about the implications of this on your morals..

Satanism is more a spit-in-the-face of organized religion than it is anything else. Yes I am one to notify the existence of an all-encompassing deity, but I'm not about to follow pre-conceived ideals  that may or may not be what I want for myself.

I'm free to choose a set of ideals and live my physical life how I see fit because it's physically possible to me, not because some grand beast told me I could. To be fair, if God is the Great Placer, that would mean that he created the concept of freedom and choice to be an ever-existing force in the universe.

Concerning more of my "Satanism", I base a lot of my actions on HInduistic karma; the more of a north-facing moral compass I maintain whilst exerting a general aura of good feelings, the more the universe will shift to a more benevolent state and, in turn, reward me for my contribution to the sanity and happiness of those around me.

-Chillz

 

Posted Jul 31, '13 at 2:31pm

mbbs112

mbbs112

173 posts

Nope it's not your ancestors fault it's yours because if they did sins or good deeds its their fault and let me tell you something about the story of Adam and Eve...... God was angry at the Devil's disobedience and threw him out out of heaven but the Devil vowed to take revenge on mankind until the day of Judgement but God said : My good people will not listen to you..... See what God said? That explains why he let  the Devil do that he had faith in us  that's why he let the Devil tempt us with bad things

 

Posted Jul 31, '13 at 3:50pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,953 posts

Knight

Nope it's not your ancestors fault it's yours because if they did sins or good deeds its their fault

^ does this even make sense? 0.o

and let me tell you something about the story of Adam and Eve......

I'm very sorry but all this doesn't explain anything to me.

 

Posted Aug 1, '13 at 1:42pm

thebluerabbit

thebluerabbit

2,914 posts

My good people will not listen to you.....

so... god was wrong? lols

 

Posted Aug 12, '13 at 4:04pm

SubZero007

SubZero007

401 posts

he let the Devil tempt us with bad things

Define "bad things"

 
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