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Posted Aug 3, '13 at 7:31pm

thepunisher93

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But ill do like to hear, how India-Pakitan relations are going on now?

I like them Chill
but they are warming up
Although Nawaz Sharif Promised a tour to INdia but he did not go.
Agencies say that there is cold war going b/w Black ops groups.
 

Posted Aug 4, '13 at 3:14am

danielo

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So as much as it might seem cool outside, a war can explode in a click?

And for another thing...

I just saw a show on WW2 (again... for the 42 time maybe) and i thought on it:

There wont be another World war as the west dont let any other global force to rise.
It might seem like bullieng, some peoples hate USA and UK for that, but eith all the respect, what did they did in the spanish civil war? Nithing. And we hate them for that. What they doind in Afganistan? What we wanted them to do in the Spanish civil war. Help the afgan democracy (there was an afgan democracy, but everything changed when the soviet nation attacked).
We dont like how USA get insolved with Cuba, but history shown us what happened on Russia.

 

Posted Aug 6, '13 at 10:57pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,322 posts

i didn't follow the topic. i just accidentally went in here and i readed this line:

The amount of light is a direct indicator of economic activity.

look at europe... look at the netherlands and belgium... that whole area is 1 big light source. even much more then the rest of europe... but i can't say belgium is 1 of the most economical active countries in europe. they have 1 of the best spots. surrounded by countries who are. but they are more like greece then france, germany or the netherlands... still they have this massive amount of light pollution...
 

Posted Aug 14, '13 at 10:40am

danielo

danielo

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An indian submarine as exploded yesterday


Punisher? Do you have something to do with it?
Joking : )

Civil war in eygept?
The military as clashed wirh the protesters, some sources claim 300 deads, while thw Islamic brotherhood claim 1200.

Does things gonna get nasty?

 

Posted Aug 17, '13 at 9:56am

LazyOne

LazyOne

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look at europe... look at the netherlands and belgium... that whole area is 1 big light source. even much more then the rest of europe... but i can't say belgium is 1 of the most economical active countries in europe. they have 1 of the best spots. surrounded by countries who are. but they are more like greece then france, germany or the netherlands... still they have this massive amount of light pollution...


More like Greece? What the hell? Greece has a huge national debt and a dead economy.

Belgium has a debt, but not bigger or smaller than other western countries. Actually, our economy has suffered less under the crisis than most (such as Holland) simply because we refused to economise on certain things Holland did economise on.

On topic:
A little history:
After WW2, the US dollar was set as the world reserve currency which means that basic goods such as oil, wheat, ... were all priced in dollars on the international market. All of this paper money was printed by the US. Of course, this gave the US a significant advantage on the market. The US could, in theory, print its own money and trade it off for goods on the international market. To prevent this, the US promised to all nations that their dollars would be exchangable for gold at a rate of 1234.5 dollars per kilo. Sounds fair.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system

Now we jump from '45 to '70. It became clear that the US had pumped massive amounts of money into the Vietnam war. So some countries (*cough* France *cough*) started wondering if the US had secretly been printing out money. Because, you know, they'd just invested billions in a war and the life conditions in the US weren't deteriorating or anything. So France decided to exchange all of its dollars for gold. Nixon refused. The US had just robbed the western world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_Shock

So how did the US prevent an all-out war? Well, the answer to that is simple. Nixon asked Saudi-Arabia to *only accept the US dollar* in exchange for oil. Seeing something going on here? Not only did he ask Saudi-Arabia, he asked every other oil-exporting country. The all accepted. By the end of 1975, every country exporting oil only accepted the dollar. Now what did they get in exchange? Military protection from the US. This tactic forced other nations to maintain the dollar. How could they obtain it? By sending goods to the US. Yes, the scam keeps going on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar

Next: Iraq. In 2000 Iraq (after being obliterated by the Gulf War) started something called the "Oil-For-Food Program". The name says it all. In fact, Iraq now sold *oil for euros*. Of course, this was terribly bad for the US. What did the US do? Point a finger and yell "They've got a nuke!" and invaded the country. Again. Well, turns out that Iraq didn't have a nuke. The country was destroyed, though. After the Iraq war (2003) the nation suddenly stopped selling oil for euros and reverted back to dollars. Economical interests? Nope, they suffered about 20% loss because of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil-for-Food_Programme
_don't think I need to post a link to the gulf war & Iraq war wikipedia pages, do I?_

Now, we're in the 2000's What's going on now?
Well, you all remember Libya, where Gaddhaffi was executed by rebels. Why? He launched a gold-for-oil program. Now what do the rebels have to do with the dollar?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/us-libya-usa-order-idUSTRE72T6H220110330

Next point: Iran
Same story. Iran wanted to sell gold for oil, the US forbids it and threatens with military strikes to stop their alleged nuke-building business.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/16/us-iran-turkey-sanctions-idUSBRE91F01F20130216
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse
Well, the independent Iranian oil market still exists. Who likes to buys there? China and Russia.

Next point: Syria
This is actually happening right now. Syria and Iran have a mutual defense agreement. The Syrian regime is being brought to its knees by rebels (surprisingly supported by the US). Remember the whole fuss about the Sarin gas used against by the Syrian government? Well, a Russian study shows that it wasn't the regime that used it, but rather the rebels. I don't know which one to trust, really. I don't know.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/feb/17/usa.syria
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/30/obama-syria.html

So what you have now, is a two-sided fight between the world's strongest nations. On one side we have Russia, China and North Korea and a bunch of smaller countries. On the other side we have the USA, the NATO, South Korea, and, again, a few other smaller nations. They're all ganging up on one side of Syria, watching what the other player does. In fact, Russia's already supported the Syrian regime with surface-to-surface missiles. Russia has already warned the US several times that when they attack Iran and try to stop the Russian and Chinese import of non-dollar-funded oil, they will attack. Doesn't look like the US is going to stop any time soon.
 

Posted Aug 17, '13 at 3:50pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,322 posts

Belgium has a debt, but not bigger or smaller than other western countries. Actually, our economy has suffered less under the crisis than most (such as Holland) simply because we refused to economise on certain things Holland did economise on.
[quote]
economical activity has nothing to do with debt...

when belgium had no government for what? 3 year? your debt rose and rose. you still have unneeded debt because of this. and we dont suffer so much of the crisis. only some sectors. sucks for them but most sectors do rather well.
 

Posted Aug 17, '13 at 3:58pm

LazyOne

LazyOne

173 posts

economical activity has nothing to do with debt...

when belgium had no government for what? 3 year? your debt rose and rose. you still have unneeded debt because of this. and we dont suffer so much of the crisis. only some sectors. sucks for them but most sectors do rather well.


... 3 years? I don't think you have a clue of what you're talking about.
Also, I didn't say economy had anything to do with debt. I said we weren't as bad in debt as Greece. Greece's economy is dead in the water, Belgium's economy is stagnating.

Now, end this discussion here. Either contact me on my profile or stop derailing the thread.
 

Posted Aug 17, '13 at 8:18pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,322 posts

ahboeboe, it's quite obvious what is on and off...

anyway, if you readed my post well then you readed i was about economic activities. like the graph was on about. you brought in debt. and went further off topic.
and i originally said. that "belgium is more like greece" then the other. what i didn't say was "belgium is greece".

 

Posted Aug 17, '13 at 9:38pm

Maverick4

Maverick4

6,889 posts

A little history:


I wouldn't have put NK as a major international player, more a Chinese proxy, but whatever.

But I am curious to see how you explain the US Oil Crisis during the Carter Administration. I have my own opinions, but I'd rather like to see yours.
 

Posted Aug 18, '13 at 9:44am

LazyOne

LazyOne

173 posts

I wouldn't have put NK as a major international player, more a Chinese proxy, but whatever.


Not an international player at all. Still an ally of China and ergo Russia.

[Quote]But I am curious to see how you explain the US Oil Crisis during the Carter Administration. I have my own opinions, but I'd rather like to see yours.[/quote]

This is a thread about WWIII, not about the 1979 energy crisis (assuming you are referring to that). I'm not going to derail it. If you want my opinion, make a thread about it.
 
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