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Posted May 29, '13 at 9:17am

nichodemus

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Knight

i still dont see that link tho. and i'm not even sure i understand what you mean by "trouble tends to manifest on a much larger scale."

Not all single children grow up with such traits. But by having an increased percentage of single child families, numbers children with such traits will tend to follow the pattern and be more than what would normally be in another nation without the policy.

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 9:21am

HahiHa

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Knight

then why do we link it to each other?

It started with a common belief in China that the One Child generation is spoilt. The study went and found a correlation, a significant difference between people born before and after. Correlation does not mean causation, but people born under the policy are statistically more selfish.

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 9:25am

partydevil

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i guess we just have to disagree then. because i dont see the link you try to make.
i do understand what you mean but i cant agree B is the cause of A. i think it has no link. and is maybe just coincidences.

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 9:31am

partydevil

partydevil

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people born under the policy are statistically more selfish

what can have many causations. why is this one linked to it? only because of the pre-believe and the notice that people behave different then 30 year ago?

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 9:50am

nichodemus

nichodemus

11,842 posts

Knight

i guess we just have to disagree then. because i dont see the link you try to make.
i do understand what you mean but i cant agree B is the cause of A. i think it has no link. and is maybe just coincidences.

It's not a cause. It's merely a logical adherence to a statistical figure. Suppose that 5% of single child families will experience such problems. Assuming that 20% of the population will come from single child families. 1% of the population will thus have such a problem. Ceteris paribus, if this 5% is now say, 50%, then 10% of the population will experience the problems that come with being a single child.

i guess we just have to disagree then. because i dont see the link you try to make.
i do understand what you mean but i cant agree B is the cause of A. i think it has no link. and is maybe just coincidences.

I doubt that millions of people are a coincidence. We have a saying in Chinese that translates roughly to ''Little Emperors'', and lately, the problem has become so significant due to the inversion of the Chinese family unit, such that 6 people dote on one child (2 parents, 4 grandparents), there's even a semi-official term, the ''Little Emperor Syndrome".

We can also bring up another example, in HK, where single child families are becoming more common. Recent studies have shown that HK kids are becoming more narcissistic, egotistical, and overestimate themselves, whilst linking it to coming from a single child background.

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 9:51am

nichodemus

nichodemus

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Knight

It's not a cause

Edit: You don't need to view it as a cause, although there are numerous studies to back this up.*

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 3:33pm

MageGrayWolf

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9,666 posts

Knight

i dont see how that is the cause of being a only child. there are enough people that have brothers/sisters and are like that aswell.

It's just saying you will be more likely to find such traits in an only child than one with siblings.

Any rate, not intending to turn this religious or anything but it relates to the argument of having children. Have any of you heard of something called the Quiverfull movement? It's a religiously driven idea of not using any sort of protecting, planned parenthood or even cycles. The whole point is to have as many kids as you can, even if it costs the woman her life.

If you've seen or heard of the "reality" show 19 kids and (Close your **** legs already!), they are a good example of this movement.

For more information.
Vyckie Garrison - If the pre-millennial christians are wrong about... (Eschaton 2012) She talks about her experience as a member of this movement and her getting out.
The wiki page on it.

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 5:07pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

4,939 posts

Knight

If you've seen or heard of the "reality" show 19 kids and (Close your **** legs already!), they are a good example of this movement.

Saw a reportage of that family in TV once, didn't know it was a whole movement though. Well what to say, conservatives keeping women as birthing machines is nothing new, but this is completely crazy.

 

Posted May 29, '13 at 5:26pm

SonOfVader

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113 posts

Saw a reportage of that family in TV once, didn't know it was a whole movement though. Well what to say, conservatives keeping women as birthing machines is nothing new, but this is completely crazy.

We really ought to be out-reproducing those people...

 

Posted May 30, '13 at 6:10am

partydevil

partydevil

5,087 posts

It's not a cause. It's merely a logical adherence to a statistical figure.

are the stats in a link that ive missed aswell?
also do we have nothing to compare these stats whit. there isn't a 2nd country whit the same law where it must have happened to aswell.
sofar i understand are these stats part of pre-believe. that children are more obnoxious, selfish, etc. etc. then 30 year ago can also apply to my country and i bet many many more countries. and for the cause of that i would look at the mass media that doesn't consider the youngest kids to be part of their viewers.

I doubt that millions of people are a coincidence.

i doubt that being a only child is the main reason for this.

It's just saying you will be more likely to find such traits in an only child than one with siblings.

we should check that from a different source then china. if it turns out it's like that everywhere els aswell then there must be a link there. i however dont see that link.
dont get me wrong. i fully understand what you guys mean but i dont make that link because i dont see why this link should be made.
(the rest of your post wasn't mend to me right?)

 
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