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Why do so many hate Muslims

Posted May 8, '13 at 5:48pm

EmperorPalpatine

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Tell me if korea occupies USA ,would you not fight them?

I certainly wouldn't attack civilians on their mainland. If I was passionate/extreme about it and had the means, maybe the political leaders.

He goes there and kills some, message delivered, we can hit back too, mission accomplished.

Hurrah, maybe a few dozen out of millions. It doesn't send a message of strength, just of cowardice. It shows that they can't handle fighting the military. It pisses off the population, creating support for further military intervention. If you're fine with people attacking enemy civilians, don't complain about the subsequent airstrikes.

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 5:56pm

thepunisher93

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Hurrah, maybe a few dozen out of millions. It doesn't send a message of strength, just of cowardice. It shows that they can't handle fighting the military. It pisses off the population, creating support for further military intervention. If you're fine with people attacking enemy civilians, don't complain about the subsequent airstrikes.

No I'm not fine with attacking civilians but some times that is the exact thing which needs to be done. To send the message
"we can hurt you too"
If (insert country name here) occupies my country or constantly ravages it with air strikes,I'llsure as hell do any thing to send the message.

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 6:01pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,978 posts

To send the message "we can hurt you too"

It's ineffective. It doesn't hurt the nation at all, but brings it together. Tragedy rallies the masses. People unite against the common enemy and retaliate with the military.

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 6:30pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

If (insert country name here) occupies my country or constantly ravages it with air strikes,I'llsure as hell do any thing to send the message.

Then you're no better than the extremists you claim to disdain. Attacking civilians accomplishes nothing except to spread hatred.

some times that is the exact thing which needs to be done

Attacking civilians in acts of random terror is never what needs to be done. In fact, it only makes things worse.

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 7:30pm

toemas

toemas

315 posts

Then you're no better than the extremists you claim to disdain. Attacking civilians accomplishes nothing except to spread hatred.

when "civilians" pull out guns and shoot people or lynch them for being gay are they really civilians?

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 7:38pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

8,629 posts

when "civilians" pull out guns and shoot people or lynch them for being gay are they really civilians?

Please stop with the generalizations

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 10:40pm

wontgetmycatnip

wontgetmycatnip

95 posts

when "civilians" pull out guns and shoot people or lynch them for being gay are they really civilians?

Who are you talking about here?

 

Posted May 8, '13 at 11:31pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,978 posts

Who are you talking about here?

I think he's arguing that it's ok to attack militant "civilians" overseas, but quoted the exact wrong thing, implying that American/European victims were attacking terrorists, so it was ok for the terrorists to react violently. This is why reading before quoting is important.

 

Posted May 9, '13 at 6:19am

nichodemus

nichodemus

12,077 posts

Knight

And if an Iraqi were to blow up one of the many members of the oil cartels that were responsible for the war, that would be understandable. But if he decided to simply attack American civilians with the excuse of "Bush kills us", that would make him no better than the gangsters killing his people.

Oil cartels? The war was initiated by jingoistic panicmongers, not some resource driven fat-cat conspiracy, although the latter has been known to greatly appeal to people who constantly want to believe in the fantastic.

And no, al-Qaeda was not Iraqi backed. I can't believe people still cling on to that more then a decade later.

 

Posted May 9, '13 at 10:14pm

wontgetmycatnip

wontgetmycatnip

95 posts

Oil cartels? The war was initiated by jingoistic panicmongers, not some resource driven fat-cat conspiracy, although the latter has been known to greatly appeal to people who constantly want to believe in the fantastic.

Orly?
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur … 71641.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/busin … d=all&_r=0
http://www.economist.com/node/21556977
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/i … oil-juhasz
http://www.carbonweb.org/documents/crud … _large.pdf

 
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