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pangtongshu
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Backstory
While doing one of my many lovable activities, lurking, I came across an interesting conversation between Sal and Mino, in which they were talking about Mino's usage of "harsh vocals" (my words, not theirs). Being another that also practices the technique, I struck up a conversation of my own with Mino, regarding the subject. After a conversing with him for a bit, I decided to create this thread..which I've been meaning to do for some time.

What are "harsh vocals"?
Now, I couldn't find a legitimate definitions on the term (or, maybe I'm just too lazy too), but what it consists of is the usage of growls, screams, etc. while "singing" (per se).

Why use "harsh vocals"?
Many reasons, actually. It really depends on the person. Some like it because of its ability to display emotions of anguish, pain, hatred, suffering, vengeance, etc; some like the sound of it; some can't sing, but can perform them; etc.

Why isn't this in the Popular Media section?
Because this isn't popular media. In fact, this has nothing to do with media. The idea of the thread is to discuss the act of "harsh vocals"..if one would like to mention a band/singer or like to a band/singer, they may do so, but the purpose in doing so shouldn't be just to talk about them, but to talk about their usage of the art, their technique, etc.

Purpose of this thread??
Oh..yeah. Forgot that...this. Has. To. Be. A. Thing.
Anyways, there are many purposes of this thread, so I'll list 'em in my favorite way possible! In an incoherent run-on sentence! (notreallyI'llactuallyjustmakealist)
1) To provide users that practice the art of Harsh Vocals a place to discuss the subject.
1-a) Their techniques and sound
1-b) The effect they are going for with their style
1-c) Ways to improve on their techniques
1-d) Bands/singers that implore the technique, and what they like and/or do not like about their usage/technique
1-e) etc.
2) To provide users that don't practice the art, but are interested in learning about the art, a place to gain knowledge.
2-a) Also a place to learn how to do it themselves
3) For all users to discuss the art, in general.
3-a) Self-explanatory.
4) To receive feedback on their style/technique
4-a) Describe your technique.
4-a-1) What sounds can you produce?
4-a-2) How do your achieve the sounds you produce?
4-b) Provide a video (link) to you performing "harsh vocals"
4-a-1) Make sure you can prove it is you.
4-a-1-a) Post something in the description that proves it is you.
4-a-1-b) Say something within the video that proves it is you.
4-a-1-c) The "somethings" will be provided upon request (either by myself or Mino).

What do we do now?
...post! Begin discussing, gain insight on the technique, whatever your heart's (appropriate) desire!
But remember to always (**cliche incoming**) rock on \\m//

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This song has nice harsh vocals in it. Though it doesn't have that pizzazz that I am looking for. Hard to find really good ones.


It was a good listen, although Killersup probably wouldn't spend 10$ to buy a whole album of theirs.
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So one of my favorite bands, Dir en Grey, features quite an amazing vocalist, with one hell of an impressive range for vocals.

hageshisa to kono mune no naka de karamitsuita shakunetsu no yami

Different Sense

Agitated Screams of Maggots

Saku

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I havent really read much of the thread aside from the first couple of posts and the last couple.

I used to listen to a lot of metal in high school (it was definitely just a phase for me :P) and a lot of the bands I liked used these kinds of vocals. I remember looking up the lyrics to songs so I could tell people what the words were when they asked :P

One of the few bands from that phase of mine I still listen to is Dark Tranquility. Their music is awesome. Lyrics, melodies, everything about them.

One of my favourite songs by them is Monochromatic Stains

Their vocals actually aren't that unclear :P Probably one of the easier to understand bands out there. They even have some albums with totally clear lyrics I think..

Melodic Death Metal

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I remember looking up the lyrics to songs so I could tell people what the words were when they asked :P


Sometimes harsh vocalists enunciate so you can understand what they are saying, but it is a art to truly hear what the singer is saying in that form of register.

So one of my favorite bands, Dir en Grey, features quite an amazing vocalist, with one hell of an impressive range for vocals.


Those were actually nice songs. Hageshisa To Kono Mune No Naka De Karamitsuita Shakunetsu No Yami is my favorite from that list. My only complaint is that the vocals seemed a little too edited for my taste. I saw a live video of that song and it sounded a lot better as appose to the studio version. One rule of thumb I've found for harsh vocals is this: the less edited, the better.
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My only complaint is that the vocals seemed a little too edited for my taste. I saw a live video of that song and it sounded a lot better as appose to the studio version. One rule of thumb I've found for harsh vocals is this: the less edited, the better.


There is some editing..I know there is frequent use of a doubling effect. But on the plus side..the editing doesn't give him a fake sound..he can still reach the notes live. Even better..a lot of live performance I have seen on the Tubes of You have them performing a song at the end of their concert..at around the 30th song or so..and despite Kyo being obviously tired, he still pushes those amazing screams and growls out.
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