Forums → WEPR → Animal abusing- what should we do about it?

either go to jail for life, or get the death penalty, or both.

Animal abuse is often either an indication of the capacity to harm humans, or should at least raise some red flags about this capacity in manifesting in some incipient stage. As such, it should be dealt with accordingly, and not solely as a deterrent for future 'roperty damage' or causing suffering to 'lesser beings'. This doesn't mean that we should impose a death sentence; we don't usually tend to go this far with human mistreatment. Also, death isn't a deterrent - it's a quick fix of questionable morality. What we need is something that will address the psychology that makes animal abuse a reality, as well as manage the destructive behaviors in an effective way - whatever that may entail.

Um both of those are a bit radical. I think depending on the severity of the case. But i don't think it should be over 20 years. I mean, they are just Animals, we eat some of them for heavens sakes, but there definitely should be a punishment, most likely a heavy fine.

But for now i think that i will call you "Mr. Liberal".

I think in more modernized societies animal abuse is indeed seen as a definite "wrong" and could be a stepping stone on the way to harming humans. But this is certainly not a universal maxim and I don't see any basis for such a maxim to be established.
I am, of course, speaking purely philosophically and would never harm an animal, but I think we should question how these ideologies came about in the first place.
Students of Descartes often went around kicking dogs because they believed the animals had no soul and therefore could not experience pain. Hmmm...

Elaborate, Moe.

Yeah can you tell more about that it is interesting.

(Although evidence that dogs can fell pain is shockingly overwhelming).

But this is certainly not a universal maxim and I don't see any basis for such a maxim to be established.

Students of Descartes often went around kicking dogs because they believed the animals had no soul and therefore could not experience pain.

I am a firm believer in an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Not too long ago in my region of the US of A a guy dragged a dog behind his car and the dog was hurt so bad it almost died. I believe it you do that to a car than they should get the same treatment. If you kill someone, you die. If you rape someone, bend over "Good time Charlie"! I always have felt strongly about that belief of mine.

I am against animal cruelty for hair products and such but humans were made to eat meat.

You could imprison animals for the order of nature.

But there is no excuse for beating an animal. This is a good quote:

"A dog you hit will follow your orders, but a dog you are good to will give its life for yours."

"A dog you hit will follow your orders, but a dog you are good to will give its life for yours."

I agree with MastaCheef! Beatin animals is wrong. Wen i see mistreated animals it makes me want to cry. Thats how much I love animals!