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Posted May 25, '13 at 1:39pm

SonOfVader

SonOfVader

113 posts

Pretty self explanatory.

A few kick-starters:

Is war ever inevitable?

Is it justifiable?

Is waging war a part of human nature?

Is war a legitimate form of foreign policy?

Does war have a place in the 21st century?

Is war necessary to the progression of humanity; or does it hinder it?

I hope these arn't too vague, but it's all I could think of off the top of my head. I'll venture to share my own views if this thread attracts any interest.

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 1:53pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

8,277 posts

Gah! This is my ****!
Finally..a topic I can shine in =D

Alas..I have stuff to do today. Expect more from me later.

Anyways...for now..my answer to them all is sort of. Is this vague? Hell yeah. I'll elaborate more laer

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 3:18pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,007 posts

Knight

I think it is interesting to notice that chimpanzees also know "war", in the sense that they organize patrols and expand their territory, leading to higher fertility in females and stuff like that. According to some it might even help explain cooperation in humans.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/zoo-a … havior.htm

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 5:53pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,094 posts

Is war ever inevitable?

yes.

Is it justifiable?

the aggressor isn't.

Is waging war a part of human nature?

it's part of nature.
as whit everything, do we humans take it to the next step.

Is war a legitimate form of foreign policy?

NO!!!!

Does war have a place in the 21st century?

of course (but i dont mind another hippie age ;) )

Is war necessary to the progression of humanity; or does it hinder it?

indirectly it does. but not because of the war itself. but because of the inventions done for war that are latter going to be used in normal day life.

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 7:00pm

SonOfVader

SonOfVader

113 posts

Anyways...for now..my answer to them all is sort of. Is this vague? Hell yeah. I'll elaborate more laer

I look forward to it :)

I think it is interesting to notice that chimpanzees also know "war", in the sense that they organize patrols and expand their territory, leading to higher fertility in females and stuff like that.

Yeah, I think I saw something similar on turf wars between baboons.

indirectly it does. but not because of the war itself. but because of the inventions done for war that are latter going to be used in normal day life.

As in, competition drives technological and tactical innovation?

It's kinda late now, so I'll post my thoughts tomorrow.
Really appreciate the response guys :)

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 7:10pm

infinight888

infinight888

41 posts

War is necessary when it's necessary. The "War on Terror" for example would have been better served as several covert attacks on Al Qaeda as opposed to the wars we're currently fighting.

However, if we are attacked by a foreign power, then it is perfectly reasonable to retaliate.

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 7:48pm

SonOfVader

SonOfVader

113 posts

Screw it, I'm not sleepy :P

I think that, in the grand scheme of things, war is a hindrance to humanity.

In my opinion; it only serves to strengthen divisions between peoples and cultures; when we'd all be better off united.

I've always been rather put off by the idea "to fight for one's country". I mean, surely countries form because unity and cooperation are more beneficial to the prosperity and collective security of society than division and conflict. And, if that's the case, isn't it ridiculous that these unified bodies of families, tribes, settlements and regions go on to wage war on each other? Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of national unity?

Or is it the case that countries are formed by warlords, kings and emperors who subjugate their people and compete with each other for power and dynastic prestige under the guise of international war?

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 8:03pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,094 posts

As in, competition drives technological and tactical innovation?

i wouldn't call war a competition. but, yea, something like that.

However, if we are attacked by a foreign power, then it is perfectly reasonable to retaliate.

(i suppose you mean by "we", usa)
of all the wars you had since ww2, for how many was this actually the case?

Screw it, I'm not sleepy :P

i am...

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 8:07pm

SonOfVader

SonOfVader

113 posts

i wouldn't call war a competition. but, yea, something like that.

What would you call it?

 

Posted May 25, '13 at 8:19pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,094 posts

What would you call it?

war...

nothing is like war...

 
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