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Posted Jul 21, '13 at 9:13am

meed1

meed1

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Get a grip, half the internet is about porn and nudity. There's no escaping it; most multiplayer games being advertised have a half-naked babe stuck in them somewhere, somehow.

AG already has a disclaimer that the site is for those 13 and over. I know that users will complain that youngsters slip under the radar, because there's little enforcement aside from user-vigilantes, but, the same can be said for real world laws as well. Is it the laws or the authorities fault completely if a 16 year old purchases a quart of hard liquor? Or is it the fault of the parents as well?

Let AG go about their own advertisement sponsors as they deem fit. It's not up to us to decide, barring it actually devolving into hardcore pornography. As for the solution, if somehow, your eyes writhe at the sight of a perfectly natural female form, get your own ad-blocker, and not bar AG from getting the money needed to fund the site.

You HAVE a choice. That choice is an ad-block. It's an individual choice, and unless AG gets a wave of complains, the problem can EASILY be solved on YOUR end with a simple download.

Lastly, the occasional complains of such a nature are rather irksome. I have never comprehended why people are so repelled of nudity and sex. If you're posting and complaining, you're assumed to be over 13, and at the very least, entering, or passing the phase of your life where an introduction to the opposite gender is going to be common-place. The sooner one is acquainted with such things, the better it'll be for that person.


Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't mean armorgames should be doing it. I'm not usually the kind of person to go along with the bandwagon. Not just because everyone else is doing it doesn't mean I won't do it, but only according to my judgement on the matter will I decide.

And I still don't think that even people over 13 should be seeing this any more then people under 13. But this has nothing to do about your example of a minor getting liquor. As for this situation, it is armorgames fault that they have these Ads. If hard liquor was never invented, no one would ever abuse it. If these Ads were never here, no one would ever see them.

"The customer is always right."
Now of course armorgames will and can decide what Ad's they use. But unless they want to start losing people and cash from it, they might as well change it. I don't really see anyone begging for armorgames to keep these kind of Ads, only people asking to remove them. They can only help themselves by removing these Ads.

As for your last statement, I disagree. It's societies view on such a thing that is the reason for having these kind of Ads. The world today thinks such things are common-place and acceptable. I'm not here to tell you want to believe, but I believe otherwise. And until that believe changes, I will follow it, and I won't sit by while these things are blown at peoples faces.
 

Posted Jul 21, '13 at 12:50pm

_RUSH_Rocky2013

_RUSH_Rocky2013

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I really don't see a problem with ads unless they are the MMORPGs that show a little too much skin which is inappropriate for kids seeing it and irritates girl gamers. However, I'm all for Armor Games and ads, that's how they get their money and pay the best game devs for the best games found on Armor Games!
Like:
Raze
Armor Mayhem
SFH
Kingdom Rush
Last Stand

 

Posted Jul 22, '13 at 9:23am

meed1

meed1

35 posts

I really don't see a problem with ads unless they are the MMORPGs that show a little too much skin which is inappropriate for kids seeing it and irritates girl gamers. However, I'm all for Armor Games and ads, that's how they get their money and pay the best game devs for the best games found on Armor Games!
Like:
Raze
Armor Mayhem
SFH
Kingdom Rush
Last Stand


This is exactly my problem too.

All the ads I see are perfectly all good and fine. Except for the giant multiplayer games Ads.

I'm definitely not saying armorgames should stop advertising or anything like that.

Just for them to remove all the advertisements for MMO games since 99% of all MMO games Ad's aren't ones I want to see.

If the people who make Advertisements for MMO games want to make them better, let them, but until then I don't want to see the current ones.
 

Posted Jul 23, '13 at 7:22am

nichodemus

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Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't mean armorgames should be doing it. I'm not usually the kind of person to go along with the bandwagon. Not just because everyone else is doing it doesn't mean I won't do it, but only according to my judgement on the matter will I decide.

And I still don't think that even people over 13 should be seeing this any more then people under 13. But this has nothing to do about your example of a minor getting liquor. As for this situation, it is armorgames fault that they have these Ads. If hard liquor was never invented, no one would ever abuse it. If these Ads were never here, no one would ever see them.


It is their fault for putting the ads up, but much more importantly, it is the fault of the users themselves if they are underage and are offended. Those users are not supposed to be on the site, as stipulated in the Terms and Conditions, which covers AG's rear. It is not the liquor inventors fault, nor the liquor sellers fault if kids try to buy liquor.


"The customer is always right."
Now of course armorgames will and can decide what Ad's they use. But unless they want to start losing people and cash from it, they might as well change it. I don't really see anyone begging for armorgames to keep these kind of Ads, only people asking to remove them. They can only help themselves by removing these Ads.


They can lose people, they won't lose cash. Users don't directly generate cash, at least those underage won't. If they lose the ads, they lose the money. You don't see them begging, because it's only people who want them gone who speak about them and because the rest of us are fine with it. About once every couple of months. The vast majority have absolutely no problems, or you'll be seeing lots more complains.

As for your last statement, I disagree. It's societies view on such a thing that is the reason for having these kind of Ads. The world today thinks such things are common-place and acceptable. I'm not here to tell you want to believe, but I believe otherwise. And until that believe changes, I will follow it, and I won't sit by while these things are blown at peoples faces.


Block it by yourself if you find it offensive. Done, finished. If a last enough segment has complained, changes should be made, but to sacrifice revenue because a tiny portion of users somehow find such pictures disagreeable with their eyes is asinine.
 

Posted Jul 23, '13 at 7:41am

MacII

MacII

1,369 posts

[quote=meed1]until then I don't want to see the current ones.[/quote]

To add, Meed, I think you're developing from one who raises an issue, to one who keeps harping on about it and getting petulant if it's not met, immediately.

Your concerns have been acknowledged above, so I guess for now it's safe to assume they have been or are being considered, but for whatever reasons won't lead to changes just yet, or maybe they never will.

Whether your concern is with third parties (e.g., children) or yourself who you would like to safeguard from seeing given content, it really is up to you to do something about it (although of course there is nothing to stop you from raising your concerns, as indeed you have), and there are means at your disposal, some of which have been mentioned.

In the news today, British PM David Cameron's suggestions regarding a "default-on" porn filter for the whole nation, at heart it reminded me of this thread, and so brought me back here:

(The Independent)
Family filters won't block 'soft' porn: David Cameron retreats in war on internet porn, admitting there will be 'problems down the line.'


(The Guardian) Why David Cameron's war on internet porn doesn't make sense.

 

Posted Jul 23, '13 at 1:07pm

meed1

meed1

35 posts

To add, Meed, I think you're developing from one who raises an issue, to one who keeps harping on about it and getting petulant if it's not met, immediately.

Your concerns have been acknowledged above, so I guess for now it's safe to assume they have been or are being considered, but for whatever reasons won't lead to changes just yet, or maybe they never will.

Whether your concern is with third parties (e.g., children) or yourself who you would like to safeguard from seeing given content, it really is up to you to do something about it (although of course there is nothing to stop you from raising your concerns, as indeed you have), and there are means at your disposal, some of which have been mentioned.



Most concerns I raise I usually don't harp on about over and over again. But when it comes to an issue such as this, where it goes against my beliefs so sharply, I'm probably going to go on about it until someone says. "Yes." or "No."
 

Posted Jul 23, '13 at 1:36pm

TerminatorXM214

TerminatorXM214

232 posts

It is their fault for putting the ads up, but much more importantly, it is the fault of the users themselves if they are underage and are offended. Those users are not supposed to be on the site, as stipulated in the Terms and Conditions, which covers AG's rear. It is not the liquor inventors fault, nor the liquor sellers fault if kids try to buy liquor.


I get the feeling Meed01 is not underage for this site, like I am not underage.
In my opinion, those ads aren't appropriate for any age, but I won't go there.

Just because it's not showing anything considered "rude" by society, doesn't mean the everyone else thinks it isn't rude. Yes, according to laws in most countries, that is considered "safe" for anyone over 13. But you forget that just because the government says it isn't inappropriate, doesn't make it not inappropriate.
Those ads certainly aren't appropriate for 13-15 year olds.

And I want to mention, just because it doesn't offend you or other people (who just so happen to be over 18), doesn't mean it doesn't offend anyone else.
Your reasoning is:
"I'm not offended. My friends aren't offended. Not many people mention that they are offended. So, it isn't offensive. The few people who mention that they are offended must be oversensitive or underage."

So, maybe you should try to see things from other people's viewpoints.
 

Posted Jul 23, '13 at 2:24pm

TerminatorXM214

TerminatorXM214

232 posts

I just realized that I *might* have sounded mean and I may have been overreacting in my previous post. My point still stands, but sorry if anyone thought I was getting mad.

 

Posted Jul 23, '13 at 10:04pm

MacII

MacII

1,369 posts

Those ads certainly aren't appropriate for 13-15 year olds.


That is of course a matter of opinion; so not quite as certain.
 

Posted Jul 24, '13 at 9:47am

nichodemus

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Most concerns I raise I usually don't harp on about over and over again. But when it comes to an issue such as this, where it goes against my beliefs so sharply, I'm probably going to go on about it until someone says. "Yes." or "No."


Previously, some ads were removed, but given that they have always reappeared in one form or another, safest bet is no, they will never go away permanently. Of course, they have the last say, and I'm only speculating based on precedents.




Those ads certainly aren't appropriate for 13-15 year olds.


That's an opinion.


Just because it's not showing anything considered "rude" by society, doesn't mean the everyone else thinks it isn't rude. Yes, according to laws in most countries, that is considered "safe" for anyone over 13. But you forget that just because the government says it isn't inappropriate, doesn't make it not inappropriate.
And I want to mention, just because it doesn't offend you or other people (who just so happen to be over 18), doesn't mean it doesn't offend anyone else.
Your reasoning is:
"I'm not offended. My friends aren't offended. Not many people mention that they are offended. So, it isn't offensive. The few people who mention that they are offended must be oversensitive or underage."

So, maybe you should try to see things from other people's viewpoints.


No, my exact reason is not that. My reason is, there have only been singular complaints a couple of times a month at most, hence there is little to action on. My reason isn't that not many people have mentioned this as offensive, then it isn't offensive. It's because there has been a lack of a flood of complains, indicating that people are unoffended due to their taste. The unoffended part does not stem from the fact that there have been less complains, there have been a lack of complains, hence indicating they are unoffended.

Furthermore, if people are offended, but don't make a stir, the onus is not on AG to automatically remove the ads. It's on people to make their complaint first.

I will take what the law states as the highest authority, a law stipulated and taken as acceptable by most of society concerning sexual imagery. In case someone takes this to mean I accept all laws just because of their definition as the law, and bring up Nazis as a counter, no, that is not the reason.
 
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