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Posted Aug 21, '13 at 3:48am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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Israel help to Egypt? Sure. But our dear Arduan claim Israel sent agents and mossad and Superheros so Morsi will fall. Not supporting, but being behind it.

That is not far off  from Israel
I mean poison? really?

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 4:11am

danielo

danielo

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Well... we apearently do such things....

Ok you won this time.

But what he think? 2 millions Mossad agents sneak in Egypt and start protesting against USA? No! Al-sisi is a Mossad spy!

I mean come on.

PS. Your ex-prime minister murdured your other ex-prime minister. Wassup *****?! (So its a draw???)

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 4:14am

danielo

danielo

1,395 posts

Replace USA with Morsi.....

We want edit button! We want edit button!

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 5:22am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,859 posts

PS. Your ex-prime minister murdured your other ex-prime minister. Wassup *****?! (So its a draw???)

If you are talking about ZA Bhutto, he ordered death of an opponent's death but forgot one important detail, he let his son file an FIR which can not be closed for ever, That is the case with FIR remains active until solved.
Time changed, he was disposed, and victim's son pursued the case under new govrn. and he was sentenced to death

As for pres. musharaf being implicated in ex  PM benazir Bhutto's murder, well he was a dictator.
Unlike you democraticaly elected PM

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 7:13am

danielo

danielo

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Are you suggesting that our (Israel) election are infected with corruption?
Unlike some other places in the world, in Israel a prime minister is voted by the peoples, and in the far future thing like this wont happen.
Seconedly, i never saw a party in pakistan who support reunion with India. But there are some in Israel. When Pakistan is in waaar, no one dare question it.
Unlike Israel.

And again, claim that Israel is the devil. This is something you muslims are very good at.

BTW i voted for Yair Lapid. He got 18 seats. Netanyaho got 31 while comebined with another party. You know what, here a link .

You can say many things about Israel. But claiming we are not democracy is a lie.

And by what source do you claim thus? Personal feelings or the biasd Pakistani  media which dosent afraid to say there ideas of what should happen to Israel?

And now a question - is the general belifs "In the street"  in Pakistan about Israel is that we are corrupted?

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 7:35am

MacII

MacII

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http://tahriricn.wordpress.com/2013/08/ … -in-egypt/ :

Tahrir-ICN statement on events in Egypt

Aug 15

The events of the past couple of days are the latest step in a sequence of events by which the military can consolidate its hold on power, aim towards the death of the revolution and a return to a military/police state.

The authoritarian regime of the Muslim Brotherhood had to go. But what has replaced it is the true face of the military in Egypt " no less authoritarian, no less fascist and for sure more difficult to depose.

The massacre carried out by the army against pro-Morsi supporters in Nadha Square and Raba’a has left around 500 killed and up to 3000 injured (Ministry of Health figures- the reality is likely much higher). It was a pre-orchestrated act of state terrorism. It’s aim is to divide the people and push the Muslim Brotherhood to create more militia’s to revenge and protect themselves. This in turn will enable the army to label all Islamists as terrorists and produce an “internal enemy” in the country which will allow the army to keep the military regime in an ongoing state of emergency.

They go after the Muslim Brotherhood today, but they will come after anyone who dares to criticize them tomorrow. Already the army has declared a state of emergency for one month, giving the police and military exceptional powers, and a curfew has been declared in many provinces for the same amount of time from 7pm to 6am. This gives the army a free hand to crack down on dissent. It is a return to the days before the revolution, where emergency law had been in place since 1967 and it provided the framework for wide-spread repression and denial of freedoms.

The character of the new regime is clear. Just a few days ago 18 new governors were appointed, the majority of which hail from the ranks of the army/police or even remnants of the Mubarak regime. There has also been an ongoing attack on workers who continue to strike for their rights (such as the recent army attack and arrest of steel workers on strike in Suez). The military regime is also hunting for revolutionary activists, journalists have been beaten and arrested, foreigners have been threatened against being witness to events. Both local and global media has told half truths and built narratives supportive of a political agenda. The counter-revolution is in full flow and it knows how to break the unity of the people in its effort to divide and conquer.

In the past two days there has been a rise in sectarian reprisals, with up to 50 churches and christian institutions attacked. The army and police were not seen protecting these buildings of the Christian community. It is in the interest of both army and the Muslim Brotherhood to stoke tensions and create fear and hatred in the people. They will fight for their control of the State as people’s blood fills the streets.

We condemn the massacres at Raba’a and Nadha Square, the attacks on workers, activists and journalists, the manipulation of the people by those who vie to power, and sectarian attacks. For the revolution to continue the people must remain united in their opposition to the abuses and tyranny of power, against whoever it is directed.

No to the return of the Muslim Brotherhood!
Down with the military and Al-Sissi!
Down with the remnants of the Mubarak regime and business elite!
Down with the State and all power to autonomous communities!
Long live the Egyptian revolution!

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 1:09pm

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,859 posts

Are you suggesting that our (Israel) election are infected with corruption?

No I am saying unlike you, we had no saying in his actions and public opinion did not affect him.

Unlike some other places in the world, in Israel a prime minister is voted by the peoples, and in the far future thing like this wont happen.
Seconedly, i never saw a party in pakistan who support reunion with India. But there are some in Israel. When Pakistan is in waaar, no one dare question it.
Unlike Israel.

And again, claim that Israel is the devil. This is something you muslims are very good at.

BTW i voted for Yair Lapid. He got 18 seats. Netanyaho got 31 while comebined with another party. You know what, here a link .

You can say many things about Israel. But claiming we are not democracy is a lie.

And by what source do you claim thus? Personal feelings or the biasd Pakistani  media which dosent afraid to say there ideas of what should happen to Israel?

And now a question - is the general belifs "In the street"  in Pakistan about Israel is that we are corrupted?

I really don't know how you got this notion

 

Posted Aug 21, '13 at 1:35pm

MacII

MacII

1,369 posts

... And another piece:

[...] But what do we have if not our beliefs? They are the foundation of our actions, of our identities. And it was transformative: the belief we all shared, for a moment, in each other. In an eternity of disappointment and greed and malice that moment, that moment in which being human was finally worth something, in which having a community was preferable to being alone with a book, had a value that will never be lost. You cannot underestimate how important these two and half years have been for people, how empowered, how unafraid people were. The existence of the revolution should not be confused with the existence of a political leadership and process. The revolution is dead when we say it’s dead. The revolution is dead when we will no longer die for it. [...]

Everything was possible, Omar Robert Hamilton, Mada Masr.

 

Posted Aug 22, '13 at 4:06pm

danielo

danielo

1,395 posts

Punisher, sorry. I thought you wete sarcastic. Old habits i guese.

Now im a bit confused - who is against who?

The Muslim brotherhood fought Islamic organizations in Sinai.
Anti-Morsi protesters dont like Sisi and afcours dont like Morsi and the MB.
The army just want to hold the power.
The Muslim brotherhood was much more calm and peacefull toward Israel then these Students and scholar protesters who yell "death to the jews"
And lets not even mention the hate toward USA for not picking a side.

Its look like Eygpt is in some deep **** of factions and hate. Everyone hate everyone else.

What can be the sollution? Will Sisi fall too?

 

Posted Aug 22, '13 at 4:24pm

Maverick4

Maverick4

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The US *did* pick a side. Unfortunately, most of its members are now sitting in prison thanks to the Egyptian Army.

What I feel the US ought to do is support the Egyptian Army. They'll very likely win anyways, and it would provide a stabilizing factor for the country. Same reason why I think Assad ought to be supported in Syria: Stability, and better the despot I know then the islamist/rebel I don't.

 
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