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Posted Aug 28, '13 at 11:19am

thepunisher93

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Well you are right Punisher. But i mean that in the 1950-70 the arab world was so open and free. Western. But now all around the world the religios groups go back to medieval.

They are going back to what they should be.
Why are you having a problem if they are choosing their own culture over western?
Will you like it if they impose their's on you?

You can wducate your kid as much as you lime. If a 18 man want to drink, than he can. If he want to have sex, he can. That his rights. You cant fobid him from doing stuffs like that. You can educate against Alchol or even just against Alcholism, but you cant take the bottle away.

Fortunately, I still can and I will fight for this right if I have to.
You despise and say that they are trying to impose Sharia law on the world while you yourself want to impose the opposite of it on them.
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Why So, Hypocrate?

No True Scotsman fallacy. You can't say they're not muslims. They live according to their version of the muslim philosophy, just because they allow women not to wear any head protection doesn't mean they follow completely different paths than you.

Strawman, I never called them non muslims. Calling a muslim, non muslim is  a great sin. I only said they are not practicing muslims and are just muslims in names.

A radical is a stronger category than a conservative; you could call it ultra-conservative.

Yes, radical is a stronger category, we call them Terrorists.

 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 2:45pm

Kasic

Kasic

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Fortunately, I still can and I will fight for this right if I have to.
You despise and say that they are trying to impose Sharia law on the world while you yourself want to impose the opposite of it on them.

Punisher, I've told you this before, but here's the root of all this.

You can't impose freedom, you can only allow it. YOUR beliefs are the ones oppressing, specifically Sharia law. People are allowed to practice their own beliefs, to an extent. YOUR beliefs do not entitle you to rule with a violent and oppressive thumb on all the indoctrinated and brainwashed citizens raised there. It does not make it right to beat the victim, because you raised them to accept that fate.

As for what I consider a moderate Muslim to be, that would be one who does not practice Sharia law.

We're off topic from the events in Egypt, though.

 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 4:27pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,003 posts

Knight

We're off topic from the events in Egypt, though.

So what's the news? Syria focuses the news, I don't hear much from Egypt. I guess not much change though..

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 3:20am

danielo

danielo

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Sisi is going Nasser on the brotherhood *****.

Well, enough with the dreams about eygept democracy. Back to normal everyone! Back to talk about our favorite food or the repeating god yes/no threads, i guese.

I think its game over.

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 3:37am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,859 posts

Punisher, I've told you this before, but here's the root of all this.

You can't impose freedom, you can only allow it. YOUR beliefs are the ones oppressing, specifically Sharia law. People are allowed to practice their own beliefs, to an extent. YOUR beliefs do not entitle you to rule with a violent and oppressive thumb on all the indoctrinated and brainwashed citizens raised there. It does not make it right to beat the victim, because you raised them to accept that fate.

You exactly want to impose freedom, I think I have said it before and i will say it again.
The only way Islam and west can co exist is if they keep a distance b/w themselves. Which certainly does not happen.
Also Sharia Law is what defines Islam.
If you don't like it, move away, don't go to places where sharia law is applied and gt drunk and have sex.And if you do so, and get caught then don't whine about getting caught.

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 3:47am

HahiHa

HahiHa

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Knight

The only way Islam and west can co exist is if they keep a distance b/w themselves.

This is just wrong. Sorry but coexistence is possible in one and the same community; in our country we have many muslims and apart from the usual conservatives on each side, everything's peachy. Though, they're the kind of muslims which you say are not real muslims, meaning moderate muslims who do not practise Sharia law.

Keeping both sides separate will only allow oppressive groups to go on imposing their views on everyone.

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 4:43am

danielo

danielo

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In Israel(!!!) we live fine side by side. I know its sound wierd, but all the arab towns inside Israel (not the west bank or gaza wher they will slaughter you if you will enter) are living in harmony with us. And they are proud muslims. They celebrate there holidays in peace and so does us. In Haifa they do this Festival wher they celebrate Passover togheter with the Eid al-Fitr and Easter.

I mean, the western bank and the Israeli-arabs are very open minded. They follow all the rules but yet live a modern life. They hear music and dance and live.

Unlike Gaza, wher Hamas rule (aka MB wing in Gaza {its quite complicated}). They burned down a water park because "its against Islam". They killed a bunch of boars at the Gaza Zoo. They threat resturants owners. They murdured an Israel-arab actor in Hevron for making Israeli and arabic kids theater classes.

So wher is better? Western world Israel or radica-Islam Gaza?

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 5:45am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

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So wher is better? Western world Israel or radica-Islam Gaza?

You forgot to mention air strikes and the fact unlawful occupation.
Settlements and list goes on and on.
So don't you ***in tell me how great israel is.
Those arabs have to live some where now, have they not?

This is just wrong. Sorry but coexistence is possible in one and the same community; in our country we have many muslims and apart from the usual conservatives on each side, everything's peachy. Though, they're the kind of muslims which you say are not real muslims, meaning moderate muslims who do not practise Sharia law.

Keeping both sides separate will only allow oppressive groups to go on imposing their views on everyone.

\\That is what you don't get, Muslims have NO RIght to impose or practice Sharia law in a non muslim majority country. Sharia is not just  law, it is a way of life, prayers, fasting, every thing is part of sharia.
Muslims do have to follow sharia but they can not force a Sharia Law in non muslim majority country.
Also, imposing Sharia Law is muslim govrn. responsibility.
When I say they are not practicing muslims, I nmean they don't say their prayers, don't fast etc.I don't mean it because they don't go around town chopping heads.
Also Danilo, boars are filthy creatures and I don't think they deserve a place in a muslim zoo.

They burned down a water park because "its against Islam"
They threat resturants owners

Links would be nice

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 5:47am

thepunisher93

thepunisher93

1,859 posts

Also dani you did not answer my previous question.

 

Posted Aug 29, '13 at 7:23am

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,003 posts

Knight

When I say they are not practicing muslims, I nmean they don't say their prayers, don't fast etc.

But they do. Muslims around here are practising muslims; they pray, they fast, they eat halal, muslimas often cover their heads. But they do it out of conviction, not because they are forced by the Shariah.

 
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