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wlqqlw
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even i changed from Chrome to firefox, the games still show black for me,


Black screen for every single game on armorgames.com

I noticed some comments saying the same problem, guess i'm not the only one

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LightWarriorK
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@LightWarriorK

I told you already,your case is different. You really do not have any problems with flash player, java, ad-blocker or anything else. The reason why you can not play games *(with youtube ads) lies in the settings of your local network.

As you said, that computer is at your work,you do not have full control of that computer,and you have certain restrictions. One of those restrictions is the blockade of Youtube web-site.

You should talk with your local network administrator If you really want to solve the problem. You can start with,for example, I'd like to use my spare time in watching videos from youtube,Can you enable this for me, please?
Or something like that,and maybe you will succeed. Who knows? If you do not try,you'll never know where you stand.


And as I've said before, what I'm looking for is a solution, not a workaround.

To me, a solution must come in one of two ways. Either the Administrators around the world at workplaces, schools, and libraries stop blocking content (specifically YouTube), or AG provides that eventual bypass to the blocked ads.

Now, as for asking my Administrators to unblock the content....that's not going to happen. They don't take issue with the few hundred kilobytes or the occasional few megabytes I may load or download by free-time internet traffic, but their focus is NOT on keeping me on task, but keeping their bandwidth at a manageable level. This means that ALL streaming sites are blocked. YouTube, Pandora, etc. Not for worker productivity, but for bandwidth. As an adult, I understand this. I'm not going to interfere with it. I also see the need for schools, libraries, and the like to monitor their content.

The issue here is NOT that Administrators are blocking content. That's their job. It's going to happen, and it's only going to get worse, never better. I think everyone should accept it as an inevitability. Welcome to the world of adults. I'm not going to endanger my job by asking for them to fix something that isn't their fault.

Rather, the real issue as I see it is the inflexibility on the part of Google Ads, and the [so far] inability or unwillingness for Armor Games to adapt to it.

I suggested the long bypass timer to render the "choice blockers" irrelevant. You put a 2 minute timer on a bypass, and they'll unblock those ads REAL quick. The folks that Armor Games is flipping off are those who can not unblock those ads.

To me, any workaround 1) will not work given our non-admin status, 2) is irrelevant, and 3) sidesteps the actual issue.

So one last time, because I'm tired of repeating myself , I will say that AG needs to provide a solution to this problem, or just flat out say, "screw you, if you can't watch our ads, you're no good to us and can't play our games." No other result will satisfy me.
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their focus is NOT on keeping me on task, but keeping their bandwidth at a manageable level.


then casually bring it up in discussion

I'm not going to endanger my job


I don't think it is a good idea to use AG as a martyr because...

asking for them to fix something that isn't their fault.
LightWarriorK
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then casually bring it up in discussion

I don't know how many times I can say it, or how much clearer I can be: IT. IS. NOT. AN. OPTION. At least not for me, and from what I know of IT folks, their sympathies don't go far, so I wouldn't count on that argument working with many Admins. I would greatly encourage everyone to stop suggesting it.

I don't think it is a good idea to use AG as a martyr because...[quote]asking for them to fix something that isn't their fault.
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It most certainly IS their fault that the YouTube ads don't have eventual bypasses. Or it's at least their fault for using Google Ads, which amounts to the same thing.

And they're not martyrs. Martyrs sacrifice. They'd be martyrs if they cut their own revenue by removing Google Ads to fix this issue. What I'm using them for is a justified point for blame.
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lol you CANT casually bring it up in discussion because of this reason

I'm not going to endanger my job


enough said.

And they're not martyrs. Martyrs sacrifice.


they would be sacrificing the whole site by eliminating their source of revenue
LightWarriorK
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they would be sacrificing the whole site by eliminating their source of revenue

I'm not saying they should eliminate the ads, that's just an example of what it would take for them to be martyrs. I already suggested a long delay bypass as a practical solution.

However, it'd hardly be eliminating their revenue. They lasted for how many years without Google Ads? YouTube has been blocked for me all that time. Yet I still played here, and they got ad revenue from me. Other ads still load fine, the problem is this mandatory, high-bandwidth ad service they're now with. I'm not saying it's greed, because I don't know AG's financials, but I know enough of how upper management of companies work to know that if Google Ads is throwing enough money at them, they're likely not going to care as much about the few people they abandon for it.

The fact that my arguments don't get responded to by the Admins leads me to believe that the site has no intention of fixing the problem, and that it must affect so few users that they don't even see it as one. Flipping off those of us without a choice in the matter, and forcing us away to other sites simply mustn't affect their bottom line enough. I wish I was wrong. I still hope I'm wrong. But I don't think I am.

It looks like I'll be playing GemCraft Chapter 2 when it comes to Kongregate, around April, instead of January when it comes here. Been waiting 2 years for it, so what's another 3 months? Not that it matters, I'm just one of few out of millions, and I'm not a big community member. I won't be missed, but I leave my disappointment here for others to see. This whole thread may one day be a stain of shame for AG, and I hope it's learned from.
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However, it'd hardly be eliminating their revenue. They lasted for how many years without Google Ads?


As more games flow into the site, it requires a larger server to host those games. When the amount of people triples, it requires a larger server to handle so many people. Servers cost money. Money comes from advertisements. The site has grown massive in the last few years. Removing ads from Google would force Dan and the other Admins to pay out of their pockets to keep the site afloat.
LightWarriorK
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You forgot to mention that the additional traffic on the site generates more ad revenue. That's an important part, since even without Google Ads, advertisement revenue does increase with traffic.

Regardless, it's a moot point. I already said I'm not advocating removing Google Ads, so long as a bypass can be found. I know they need revenue, and so long as I'm not hamstrung by the ads, I have no issue.

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I'd also like to point out that the only reason I posted on this thread was because I am also experiencing the black screen of death. I have no parental controls, and I can access Youtube normally. I have only had it since yesterday, I have no idea why.

LightWarriorK
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Stinkyjim, make sure you post answers to Ferret's questions on page 10. While YouTube is the major known source of this problem, there seem to be a few things that can cause it. Even if my problem is never fixed, I would hope yours could be.

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is if you're not in the US, and if the YouTube ad that's trying to play is blocked by your region.

stinkyjim
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Very well:

[quote
] -If you refresh the page a few times, does it start working? Or even if you refresh a dozen times, it's the same result.
-Where are you playing from. Home, work, school?
-Which browsers have you tried?
-Is this for all games, or some games?
-What anti-virus, firewall, security software do you currently have installed?
-Can you access and watch YouTube videos normally?
-What region are you located in?
-When did these problems start happening?
-When there is a black screen, do you hear anything or is it silent?
-Can you play MMOs on our website?
-Is your internet connection direct to the wall, or is it going through a router of some sort?
-Do you use any sort of ad blocking software?
[/quote]

Refreshing does nothing
I am playing from home
I have only tried Internet Explorer
All games are like this
I have Norton 360 installed, but disabling it didn't help
I can access Youtube normally
I'm living in the United States, Massachusetts to be exact
The problem started 2 days ago
The black screen is silent.
I can play MMOs (but I would rather not :P )
I use a wireless router
I don't use any ad blocking software (I prefer to support the sites I visit)

stinkyjim
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Very well:


-If you refresh the page a few times, does it start working? Or even if you refresh a dozen times, it's the same result.
-Where are you playing from. Home, work, school?
-Which browsers have you tried?
-Is this for all games, or some games?
-What anti-virus, firewall, security software do you currently have installed?
-Can you access and watch YouTube videos normally?
-What region are you located in?
-When did these problems start happening?
-When there is a black screen, do you hear anything or is it silent?
-Can you play MMOs on our website?
-Is your internet connection direct to the wall, or is it going through a router of some sort?
-Do you use any sort of ad blocking software?


Refreshing does nothing
I am playing from home
I have only tried Internet Explorer
All games are like this
I have Norton 360 installed, but disabling it didn't help
I can access Youtube normally
I'm living in the United States, Massachusetts to be exact
The problem started 2 days ago
The black screen is silent.
I can play MMOs (but I would rather not :P )
I use a wireless router
I don't use any ad blocking software (I prefer to support the sites I visit)

*Sorry for double posting, just fixing the mistake I made above. When are we gonna get an edit button?
bob111111
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if a game is black is because you tube is unalloyed so that the game add can't show.

TheGamerTuna
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From what I've read in to, it just sounds like your version of flash was corrupted upon updating. It's pretty common, I suggest removing it completely and re-downloading it.

MacII
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From what I've read in to, it just sounds like your version of flash was corrupted upon updating. It's pretty common, I suggest removing it completely and re-downloading it.


While that may sometimes help to resolve some issues, and it can't hurt to try, if you read back a little on this thread, that is not what causes this general issue.
MacII
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nb

it can't hurt to try


It (reinstalling FlashPlayer) arguably is a pain in the behind, though, esp. repeatedly and when it's not necessary.

It will notably require going over all of its settings again (assuming you don't leave them as they are), and I'm not sure now but think it may mean losing all your savegames.
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