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'Knighthood': What is a 'Knight'? And what does 'Knighthood' mean?

'Knighthood' and the title 'Knight' is bestowed upon a user that has shown exemplary deeds and outstanding behavior as a member of the Armor Games Community. This exclusive title is only granted to those users that have earned a special place among the citizens of the Kingdom.

How do I become a Knight?

Care about the community and other users and catch the eye of moderators or admins, they are the ones who choose who is Knighted. Don't ask to be Knighted, that's a good way not to be Knighted.

What can Knights do?

-They have access to a Knight-only Forum.
-They have access to Knight-only armatars
-Special forum coloring and badge.
-Knight Gilding

I'll add more to this sticky if there are further Questions.

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Doombreed
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Let's leave it for now and enjoy SirLegendary's knighting!

Over which I just set the Tavern on fire wouldn't you know...

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I mean you can leave it for now, but I'd like there to be a fix for such a flawed system.

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@pangtongshu I'll quote @Ferret on this...

Thanx for all the feedback everybody. I think there are some valid points being brought up on both sides of this discussion, but at this exact moment we're not ready to act/announce anything while tempers are hot. We'll be discussing this among moderators. Anything further that needs to be said about the matter can be directed at Ferret@ArmorGames.com.

I hope we can all celebrate the Knighting of @SirLegendary, it shouldn't get lost in all this. 

So, if you want to discuss this further, please email Ferret about it, ok? Thanx.

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@MattEmAngel , I share your concern (I truly do) but we cannot do anything now...That would have been really useful if posted a bit later, but now it is too early to jump into this kind of conclusions and post like this, I think.

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Ever heard of patience? Some things take time... ok?

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I, personally, feel like our patience has been quite worthy of merit, all things considering.

Nevertheless, I shall have to take up the suggestion to email ferret. With the weekend here, though, it seems we might be waiting a few more days to reach a response.

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Then don't base it on being &quotestered" (whatever that is supposed to mean)..base it on the fact that this whole knighting system is incredibly flawed and, given how it has progressed, has been made entirely meaningless by the people who created it as the only sort of allowance it is given for it's worth is "trust us ".

And apologies if we are &quotestering" you by pointing out this said flaws in order for some change to be made to them so that knights can actually have some sort of meaning (sorry we care about the well being of the community in general, actually, as that is the root of concerns).

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I don't understand why this is such a big thing to you guys to the point you basically start a small riot. Verwaltung is knighted. Complain all you want but it's too late to do anything about it.

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Kind of noticed this "kindly conversation" a couple of days ago, but didn't get involved due to what I thought were obvious reasons.

I haven't been here long, so some of what I say might be a little (or a lot) incorrect. So terribly sorry if I make a mistake or two.

First of:
1) Only admins can make knights, admins, the people who basically run the site. Knights don't have any powers whatsoever, so it's nothing more than a medal of honour.

2) I've been on a site similar to this where a friend of mine became a mod in 3 months, they weren't what you call active, sure they were helpful but that's about it. Long story short, the following months they became one of the best mods I've ever seen on the site.

3) To be a knight (or higher) the main reason (in my opinion) is trust. It isn't activity, or helpfulness or being kind, it's about trust. The admin(s) trust this person, I might not know this knighted person, (and as such, I can't trust them) but I can trust the admins.

3b) The people arguing (Valid reasons, I was annoyed over my friend being modded after a mere 3 months, but they changed in ways I couldn't even imagine, it really changed my opinion on not just them, but mods in general and how they were elected) have been on this site for so many months (and even years) longer than I have, and yet it seems you don't fully trust the people in charge, the people that are suppose to be your guardians, protectors, your helpers. A little bit of faith and trust can go a long way.

Sorry for the long post. Might have gotten carried away.

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Verwaltung is knighted

How many times do we have to say this. WE DONT CARE HW WAS KNIGHTED IT IS ----HOW--- HE WAS.

To be a knight (or higher) the main reason (in my opinion) is trust. It isn't activity, or helpfulness or being kind, it's about trust. The admin(s) trust this person, I might not know this knighted person, (and as such, I can't trust them) but I can trust the admins.

I would trust them a lot more if they could explain their decisions instead of just going "we made the decision listen to us". I'm not a fan of not being able to question leadership.

and yet it seems you don't fully trust the people in charge,

It isn't that we don't trust them, it's that we just don't like this system that they made and then quickly abandoned.

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Alright guys, let's take this from the top.

Please keep in mind that you are not entitled to know all the details of the discussions that go on behind the scenes. That said, some of you are evidently very upset by this, despite the minimal influence it has on the community.

Verwaltung's activity drop-off should have been noticed before the decision was made to knight him and this is an oversight. For now, however, the decision stands. If Verwaltung remains inactive we may rescind the knight title, but the team has not yet come to a unanimous decision on this. If we do end up deciding to, we likely won't make a big announcement of it.

It should be noted that the knight title does not explicitly come with active duty as a requirement. It is an acknowledgement of effort and comes with a few perks. Constructive suggestions to improve what the knight title signifies and what should be required of knights are welcome, but please submit them in an orderly fashion, ie not slathered in anger over what you feel is an inappropriate knighting.

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I would trust them a lot more if they could explain their decisions instead of just going "we made the decision listen to us". I'm not a fan of not being able to question leadership.

Verwaltung was primarily knighted to encourage the creation of more detailed game reviews, from them or others, by showing that we appreciate the time and effort put into good reviews.

Further questions welcome, although I can't guarantee being able to answer them.

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Please keep in mind that you are not entitled to know all the details of the discussions that go on behind the scenes.

Nor are we saying we are? We are saying that this title was created as a position of merit for examplery users among the site. However, how can any of these users be examplery if no one has any fine and dandy clue as to what about them made them worthy of being a knight. At least half of the knights easily fit this issue.

That said, some of you are evidently very upset by this, despite the minimal influence it has on the community.

Minimal? You are literally giving a user a title, benefits and all. Hardly minimal. Furthermore, the title and fancy font colour obviously will have an effect on users when it comes to an opinion piece or advice.

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It is an acknowledgement of effort and comes with a few perks.

As I've said, it's been brought down to the point of glorified beta-tester, sadly.

how to improve knight title

-make the decision of a decision that *mod 1: I like this user he is nice* *admin1: k* *mod 2&3 kick sand at mod 4*

-Make the community more involved. That way more of a sense or respect can be placed upon a knight.

-idk give them mini mod powers how is that not an obvious
Note: don't do this until after the system is fixed

-in their profile, in the "knight" discription, put their reason for knighting there.

Verwaltung was primarily knighted to encourage the creation of more detailed game reviews, from them or others, by showing that we appreciate the time and effort put into good reviews.

Yeah we figured that out. Still a few more of the knights that have gone unrecognized/answered. (Almost all, actually).

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