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Kelly Thomas Murder Trial

Posted Jan 18, '14 at 7:07pm

themastaplaya

themastaplaya

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As you may have heard, the police officers responsible for the savage and deadly beating of the special needs California man Kelly Thomas eluded justice in the courtroom last night. How is it that the people we employ to protect us can get away with disgusting acts of savagery like that?
What are your opinions on this pathetic verdict?
Do you feel threatened by our out of control police force?
How have the police become beyond reproach in the eyes of the law?
How does this injustice make you feel?

These are important things that I want you very much to share your opinions on.

 

Posted Jan 18, '14 at 7:38pm

Devoidless

Devoidless

3,838 posts

Once again:
Links to credible and pertinent coverage is more or less a must.

 

Posted Jan 18, '14 at 7:49pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,704 posts

I was thinking of making a thread..but given how old the event was I opted out, nevertheless, I made a little blurb about it on Facebook a few days ago...

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This is an absolute shame, both for what the officers did to the poor man, as well as to the fact that this will further perpetuate the stereotypes about officers that we all know and love.

The man in the video, Kelly Thomas, was a known schizophrenic by the police force, and despite compliance with their demands, they proceeded to not only threaten him unnecessarily (and in a completely unprofessional manner), but then attack him for reasons beyond reasonable comprehension. Even during the attack, Mr. Thomas tried to comply with their demands, to which he had difficulty doing so due to the fact that he was being pummeled for some arbitrary and asinine reason.
Mr. Thomas ended up dying, with the toxicology report showing him to have no drugs in his system (will link in comments), and the autopsy declaring his cause of death as " anoxic encephalopathy [brain damage or death due to lack of oxygen] due to mechanical chest compression along with blunt cranial and facial injuries [which reduced oxygen to the brain]." (will link in comments).
The officers involved were acquitted of their charges towards the death of Kelly Thomas. To this, I am overwhelmingly baffled.
His death happened almost 4 years ago, and is a shame that post people, including myself, are just now hearing about it.

-NOW - A sidenote: This is, by no means, a statement against cops, nor should it be taken as such. This is one incident, and one incident, or a small handful of other incidents, do not create the larger picture. This is one instance in which officers acted unprofessionally, but this is by -no means- a statement on how our police force has become today.

Video

"The toxicology report shows that Thomas had no illicit drugs or alcohol in his system"

Autopsy report (within dialogue at trial)

 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 12:44am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,437 posts

How is it that the people we employ to protect us can get away with disgusting acts of savagery like that?

Because murder is part of the governmentâs job.

What are your opinions on this pathetic verdict?

The outcome seems typical.

Do you feel threatened by our out of control police force?

I feel more threatened by what the rest of the system grants them, such as no-knock raids. If you really want someone dead and you know where they live, don't waste your money on a hitman. Instead, hire law enforcement for free by giving the DEA an anonymous tip. It's that easy.

How have the police become beyond reproach in the eyes of the law?

Because people are scared of bad guys and exchange rights for protection.

How does this injustice make you feel?

The same way that this, this (follow-up), this, this, this, this, this (advisory: footage contains death), this, this (advisory: footage contains death), and this do. Granted, everyone (even officers) should be considered innocent until proven guilty. However, it seems that anyone targeted by police is presumed guilty until dead. Law enforcement is becoming judge, jury, and executioner.
 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 12:53am

nichodemus

nichodemus

13,240 posts

Knight

Thank goodness I don't live in the States then.

 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 11:56am

09philj

09philj

1,774 posts

Somehow the corruption in the U.K. police seems trivial...

 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 2:19pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,704 posts

this (advisory: footage contains death),


(the first link with such words)

In their defense, dude was holding a weapon.
 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 2:55pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,437 posts

In their defense, dude was holding a weapon.

dude wasn't the one they were after.
A golf club 10ft away vs body armor. Simple communication would've avoided this situation. Someone busts down your door in the middle of the night. Why would you think it's the police?
 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 3:16pm

themastaplaya

themastaplaya

1,020 posts

Exactly. The police seemingly have the notion that they don't have to follow any procedure, code of conduct, or let alone the law they are supposed to uphold. Simple communication would have solved the problem. Instead more or less, cops today act like angry, evil, irresponsible babies with guns and badges.

 

Posted Jan 19, '14 at 3:24pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,704 posts

Why would you think it's the police?


From them yelling "it's the police". All I know from the video is that they entered a home during a drug bust and a man was there with a weapon, Videos such as this are shown to officers in training for how being too lenient against someone with a weapon could be costly (albeit there -is- a huge difference between golf club and gun).

The officers could have very well warned the people beforehand that they were police, or hell they could have very well warned them that they would shoot anyone with a weapon. We don't know this necessary information of what actions were taken before entering the home, we only see the enter the home, yell "police" a few times, then shoot a man with a golf club set in striking position.
 
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